Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[Hijinx]

Whatever happens I trust that it will make the team better, will have full fan support, and will be done without a lot of drama in the press. And at the end of the year there will be no turnover of FO or coaching staff. Also unicorns.

[kct1975]

Just watched First Take on ESPN...

Everyone on the show, except Skip Bayless, agreed that both the Redskins and RG3 need to move on.

Both Shannon Sharp and Jeff Saturday commented on the reasons that RG3 needs to "retool" his game, and needs to find a situation that fits him.

Skip Bayless instead, completely blamed the Redskins organization and Jay Gruden.

Skip Bayless is a complete idiot.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by kct1975

Just watched First Take on ESPN...

There is your problem right there. People still watch those idiots?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by kct1975

Just watched First Take on ESPN...

Everyone on the show, except Skip Bayless, agreed that both the Redskins and RG3 need to move on.

Both Shannon Sharp and Jeff Saturday commented on the reasons that RG3 needs to "retool" his game, and needs to find a situation that fits him.

Skip Bayless instead, completely blamed the Redskins organization and Jay Gruden.

Skip Bayless is a complete idiot.

I swear that they keep him on tv just because his ignorance makes people tune in.

[MTK]

Typical Skip

[Defensewins]

Trevor Matich on ESPN saying hallelujah about RGIII being removed as starter. He also talked about how RGIII mouth also contributed to his demise in DC and in the locker room. That his comments and throwing his teamates under the bus was cringe worthy. Yes it was.

[Defensewins]

$6million cap hit if cut in 2015? Is that true. If so, he will not be cut and he will inactive all year. Cut next year

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

$6million cap hit if cut in 2015? Is that true. If so, he will not be cut and he will inactive all year. Cut next year

If the Skins have $8.5-9 million of Cap space this year why not use it now?

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

If the Skins have $8.5-9 million of Cap space this year why not use it now?

wouldn't it still be a 6mm cap hit if he is on the team? Best to rip the bandaid off and get rid of the circus and confirm to Kirk that he is the man for the year.

[SFREDSKIN]

The cost of moving on from RG3 | CSN Mid-Atlantic

[MTK]

They can afford the cap hit if they choose.

[WillH]

In Scot I trust, but . . .

I mean, if all the rumors are true, if he is a locker room cancer or bad for morale or whatever, if he won't ever be able to develop into a pocket passer, if he refuses to put in the mental work required, if his head has been ruined by the injuries and he's lost his self confidence as QB, then yeah I guess it's time to move on.

And yet, After all we put in to drafting him, to give up on him after 3 years, one of which he brought us to the playoffs, it just doesn't sit right with me. I mean, we gave Jason Campbell more time than that, and sure, he was a robot and didn't give the media much to play with, but I wouldn't characterize him as an inspirational leader either, right?

Campbell Stats
2009 Redskins 64.5 3,618 20 15 86.4
2008 Redskins 62.3 3,245 13 6 84.3
2007 Redskins 60.0 2,700 12 11 77.6
2006 Redskins 53.1 1,297 10 6 76.5

RG3 Stats
2014 Redskins 68.7 1,694 4 6 86.9
2013 Redskins 60.1 3,203 16 12 82.2
2012 Redskins 65.6 3,200 20 5 102.4

If Scot was not here I would be squarely against this move. But I will put my faith behind him over RG3 for sure

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WillH

In Scot I trust, but . . .

I mean, if all the rumors are true, if he is a locker room cancer or bad for morale or whatever, if he won't ever be able to develop into a pocket passer, if he refuses to put in the mental work required, if his head has been ruined by the injuries and he's lost his self confidence as QB, then yeah I guess it's time to move on.

And yet, After all we put in to drafting him, to give up on him after 3 years, one of which he brought us to the playoffs, it just doesn't sit right with me. I mean, we gave Jason Campbell more time than that, and sure, he was a robot and didn't give the media much to play with, but I wouldn't characterize him as an inspirational leader either, right?

Campbell Stats
2009 Redskins 64.5 3,618 20 15 86.4
2008 Redskins 62.3 3,245 13 6 84.3
2007 Redskins 60.0 2,700 12 11 77.6
2006 Redskins 53.1 1,297 10 6 76.5

RG3 Stats
2014 Redskins 68.7 1,694 4 6 86.9
2013 Redskins 60.1 3,203 16 12 82.2
2012 Redskins 65.6 3,200 20 5 102.4

If Scot was not here I would be squarely against this move. But I will put my faith behind him over RG3 for sure

2 big differences are the injuries, and the locker room distraction. If Griffin came everyday, didn't create media storms with his mantras, and stayed healthy, we probably would not be at this point.

Of course maybe it's for the better that this didn't go another year.

[Schneed10]

The cap hit on RG3 is the least understood thing out there. Here's a simple breakdown:

- If he stays on the roster, his cap hit this year is $6.7M
- If he's cut, his cap hit this year is $6.7M, no savings, no extra burden
- If he's traded, his cap hit this year is $3.3M, a savings of $3.4M

The cap is a non-issue in this decision.

[Schneed10]

The reason a trade reduces the cap hit is that the team acquiring him would be responsible for picking up the $3.4M guaranteed salary. If nobody takes on that contract via a trade, the Redskins are on the hook for it. So that's why they want to deal him. Also, it would save Snyder $3.3M in actual $, so obviously he has a vested interest in seeing a trade happen.

But the cap is of no consequence here.