Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

I like the mention of the screen game... Something I don't think Gruden took advantage of enough last year. It helps build a QB's confidence and we've got WRs that can excel in it.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Nice.....can't wait to see how he does against the Texans

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Nice report from yesterday.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

... no one's saying he's NEVER done anything good scrambling, just that he makes more bad plays then he should

C'mon dude. You made a statement without qualifiers if you meant something different then you should have said. Anyhow, however you couch/parse your view of Griffin's ability to make plays scrambling we disagree. No need to go round in circles over it.

Originally Posted by That Guy

It's definitely possible for him to turn it around, I just don't think it's the likely scenario.

We agree that Griffin has the talent to turn it around; except I don't see it happening in this scheme with this coach.

...and i really don't buy that his problems are jay's fault for not believing in him. that just feels like an excuse. He's been around the NFL long enough, it's time to put up or shut up.

Okay. But player performance doesn't happen in a vacuum. And it's not just Jay's lack belief alone that contributed to Griffin struggles. I've never said that. Griffin faults are his own; however coaching does play a role. So Jay's lack of belief might seem insignificant to you but the QB-playcaller/HC relationship is vital to the QB development and success. How can a player develop when the person responsible for that development didn't want to do it from as early as week 1 preseason? Then you have Griffin throwing the least amount of passes preseason passes then any QB on the team...did that help Griffin's development? Lack of patience, lack of commitment to run game etc All those things I mentioned early as contributing to Griffin's struggles follow at least impart from Jay's lack of belief.

So sure this is Griffin's last chance here but his success or failure here is inextricably tied to Jay's growth as a HC/playcaller. And based on past history I wouldn't put my money on Jay-Griffin working out.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 30gut

C'mon dude. You made a statement without qualifiers if you meant something different then you should have said. Anyhow, however you couch/parse your view of Griffin's ability to make plays scrambling we disagree. No need to go round in circles over it.

you're kidding right? unless i specifically say griffin isn't total garbage, you'll just assume it if i say he has any kind of flaw in his game? come on. no one is right or wrong 100% of the time, including griffin. i don't think it's unreasonable to assume people understand that without adding legal disclaimers to every post.

[MTK]

Guess I'm just an eternal optimist, but I think Griffin is very capable of turning things around.

[Hog1]

I do to.....

[JPPT1974]

Keep your fingers crossed as hope he can turn it all around.

[30gut]

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[MTK]

Washington Redskins' Robert Griffin III makes positive strides in camp - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Washington Redskins' Robert Griffin III makes positive strides in camp - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Interesting article. Its good to hear Griffin doing well and the staff contributing (Matt C) and the staff being upbeat, both on and off the record. All 3 are welcome changes from last year.

Originally Posted by Keim

There was a cross-your-finger optimism about Griffin entering camp and after five days the coaches have been pleased about what he’s shown and the direction he’s headed. It’s far different than at this time a year ago when whispers started circulating about displeasure with Griffin.

This shows that the staff is learning from last year. Jay and McVay's frustration with Griffin early in training camp last was a sign to me that trouble lurked. First, I was taken aback that after all the off record talk Shanny was involved in I didn't expect the new regime to be involved with off the record negativity regarding Griffin. Second, I consider being frustrated with developing a young QB par for the course of being a coach thus whining about it off the record to the media imho was a sign of immaturity and a sign of being overwhelmed with the numerous hats of a rookie HC with a rookie OC and no QB coach.

Originally Posted by Keim

the coaches have tweaked what they’re doing, and the presence of quarterbacks coach Matt Cavanaugh already is helping....Having Cavanaugh has helped make the quarterbacks’ reads more defined. In the past, they would keep it basic -- if the primary option isn’t there, they would spout off where they would go next and then next. Do it all in one line. It was a cliffs notes version of what Cavanaugh asked them to do: memorize a graph of each pass play. It took time to adjust in the spring, but it has helped define the reads better. It’s like having an owner’s manual of each play in your head.

The coaches adapting is great news to hear and I wish it would have happened last year but I'm glad its happening this year. I also love the fact that we not only hired a QB coach but hired one as accomplished as Cavanaugh, who arguably is as accomplished an OC as Jay, a SB winning OC.

The article has lots of good insight that lends towards optimism, especially for someone like me who sees Griffin's success as linked towards Jay's growth as a HC and it appears there are signs pointing in the right direction from a coaching stand point. Now, I know this will make some uncomfortable but hopefully all the rhetoric and changes we've been hearing about the offensive philosophy is true and can help build Jay's level of faith and support for Griffin. Time will tell and even though its only week 1 of training camp...so far so good.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Interesting article. Its good to hear Griffin doing well and the staff contributing (Matt C) and the staff being upbeat, both on and off the record. All 3 are welcome changes from last year.

This shows that the staff is learning from last year. Jay and McVay's frustration with Griffin early in training camp last was a sign to me that trouble lurked. First, I was taken aback that after all the off record talk Shanny was involved in I didn't expect the new regime to be involved with off the record negativity regarding Griffin. Second, I consider being frustrated with developing a young QB par for the course of being a coach thus whining about it off the record to the media imho was a sign of immaturity and a sign of being overwhelmed with the numerous hats of a rookie HC with a rookie OC and no QB coach.

The coaches adapting is great news to hear and I wish it would have happened last year but I'm glad its happening this year. I also love the fact that we not only hired a QB coach but hired one as accomplished as Cavanaugh, who arguably is as accomplished an OC as Jay, a SB winning OC.

The article has lots of good insight that lends towards optimism, especially for someone like me who sees Griffin's success as linked towards Jay's growth as a HC and it appears there are signs pointing in the right direction from a coaching stand point. Now, I know this will make some uncomfortable but hopefully all the rhetoric and changes we've been hearing about the offensive philosophy is true and can help build Jay's level of faith and support for Griffin. Time will tell and even though its only week 1 of training camp...so far so good.

What I like about the article is Kiem doesn't usually sugar coat things, if he seeing good things then the coaches are and if nothing else they will know if they want to win they have to go with the best option to do so on the roster. To me RG III is it, we all know what we will get with Cousins and McCoy. Ints with the first and no long ball with the latter.

Establish a running game and get him moving and he should be successful.

[skinsfan69]

Good to hear positive things about Griffin so far. But it's still practice, there's no real pass rush. We heard the same things about Jason Campbell.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Good to hear positive things about Griffin so far. But it's still practice, there's no real pass rush. We heard the same things about Jason Campbell.

yup, Texans practice will tell us more

[skinsfan69]

Chris Russell was on 106.7 the other day. Still says that a lot of people in the organization don't believe in Griffin.