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[Hog1]

I am shocked there is no more outrage over this....deal. I cannot figure any way Iran is not raining Nuc's on us and Israel at their first opportunity.
After all this is not the "Peace Loving Muslim" we are talking about. This is the American beheading, hostage taking, Death to all Iraeli's...Death to all Americans we are talking about.
Oh...I forgot, Worlds foremost sponsor of terrorism....Peace Loving Muslims.
And we are going to arm them with 150 Billion in sanction relief (which is probably the only reason they are at the bargaining table at all)
Iran Inspections in 24 Days? Not Even Close - WSJ
Oh and Inspectors up their ass??? Maybe after 6 months of BS delays or so in which time they will have had plenty of time to hide the whole F...n country.
Appears to be ....quite the Coup
No worries they have always proven to be a trustworthy partner....right?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I am shocked there is no more outrage over this....deal. I cannot figure any way Iran is not raining Nuc's on us and Israel at their first opportunity.
After all this is not the "Peace Loving Muslim" we are talking about. This is the American beheading, hostage taking, Death to all Iraeli's...Death to all Americans we are talking about.
Oh...I forgot, Worlds foremost sponsor of terrorism....Peace Loving Muslims.
And we are going to arm them with 150 Billion in sanction relief (which is probably the only reason they are at the bargaining table at all)
Iran Inspections in 24 Days? Not Even Close - WSJ
Oh and Inspectors up their ass??? Maybe after 6 months of BS delays or so in which time they will have had plenty of time to hide the whole F...n country.
Appears to be ....quite the Coup
No worries they have always proven to be a trustworthy partner....right?

what's your solution then? nuke them first? the cold war ended without causing the end of the world, cause people decided that talking was better than nuclear holocaust. and honestly it could have ended quite a bit sooner. hap (arnold, USAF) was calling for pre-emptive nuclear war the whole time... i'm glad we decided not to go down that path.

maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but disengagement rarely yeilds good results in the long run. their leadership is not stupid and is a generally rational actor, even though their aims don't really match up with ours very often. (ie, they know launching nukes without testing at a country with interception capabilities is probably a bad idea).

we were the ones that destroyed their democracy and installed a puppet government that had a pretty terrible human rights record (which is a big part of why it was overthrown). so the argument that they'll bomb us is kind of glass house thinking (though they're definitely acted against us with militias/training in iraq etc). the best deterrent is using isreali/saudi arabia as watch dogs and missile shield sites, since they aren't very hip to iran in any way.

israel does have a legitimate concern though, since they'd be in close range.