Plusses and Minuses vs. Browns

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've talked to several people in and around the organization about Kirk Cousins since I first heard at the 2012 Senior Bowl that there was interest in him and this is often a common concern. Excellent student of the game, a star in the film room. Knows exactly what he and everyone need to do and where to be. But he's so by the book that chaos (for lack of a better word) throws his game off.

This is one big reason why I just don't think he can ever be more than a reliable back-up/spot starter

If Andy Dalton , Matt Cassel and Nick Foles are starters in the NFL then so can Kirk Cousins. Not saying he can be top starter, I don't that's the case. But he can be a middle of the pack starter.

Right now I'm not sure Griffin can be a middle of the pack starter.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If Andy Dalton , Matt Cassel and Nick Foles are starters in the NFL then so can Kirk Cousins. Not saying he can be top starter, I don't that's the case. But he can be a middle of the pack starter.

Right now I'm not sure Griffin can be a middle of the pack starter.

So at best he can be andy dalton... no thank you. And sadly RG3 might be worst than that. It seems more and more likely that the qb of the future is not on the roster.

Sounds like we are revisiting the old debate of Rex Grossman vs john beck

[Bucket]

It's funny. You compare stats of RG3 with other QBS over a 3 year spam. You would wonder what an expectation Is for some fans.

Perfection is not going to happen folks. We are a ways out from being a strong successful franchise. This is year one of the make over.

Sometimes I wish RG3 would of just had a similar statistic season as Luck or Wilson. Of course. Most fans would be asking for him to be cut after his rookie year if that was the case

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

It's funny. You compare stats of RG3 with other QBS over a 3 year spam. You would wonder what an expectation Is for some fans.

Perfection is not going to happen folks. We are a ways out from being a strong successful franchise. This is year one of the make over.

Sometimes I wish RG3 would of just had a similar statistic season as Luck or Wilson. Of course. Most fans would be asking for him to be cut after his rookie year if that was the case

Your letting stats get in the way of what your eyes see.The stat you should be looking at is wins and losses.Since his injury he's just not the same qb,he has shown no improvement since coming back from the injury.His stats are very misleading,you look at his stats and say to yourself damn he's not so bad,but when you watch him play you say damn he's not that good.Dont let the stats fool your eyes.

[OmahaRedskins]

Just 3 more days until we have new reasons to bash RG3.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Just 3 more days until we have new reasons to bash RG3.

You see....that's the kind of indomitable Redskin spirit that keeps us all grounded and looking to the future....

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Just 3 more days until we have new reasons to bash RG3.

omaha, why wait? U saw the rg3 quote today PFT or as I call it Pussy Football Talk...lets just bash everyday.

Damn I wish garçon woulda caught that pass

[ethat001]

I agree with Cousins comments, and yes in general he seems to struggle with stressful situations.

But two points:
1) It's hard to just label Kirk as crumbling under stress.. He may be more accurately labeled just -- inconsistent. Remember, he had one of his best games against Seattle, one of the best defenses in the league last year. 283 yards, 2 TDs, no interceptions. He has come in with stressful games in backup -- and delivered wins. Just saying that he doesn't always crumble under pressure -- 3 of the 6 games last year he actually had passer ratings >100 and only 1 interception.. And the other three passer ratings ~60 with 8 interceptions. Sometimes inconsistency gets better with experience.

2) Last year our OLine sucked and our Defense was historically bad leading to: coming from behind / being forced to pass, ineffective running games, and opposing defenses unleashing the pass rush.. This could have contributed to above, and may be better this year.


Just pointing out that we shouldn't give up completely on Cousins. Or Griffin for that matter.

[Alvin Walton]

Stats are playoff wins....
Everything else is just geek numbers for fantasy players.

[OnceWeWereKings]

So I'm just getting to watch the rebroadcast. Which kinda rules, because I get to watch 2 skins games today. I do have to say, regardless of anything else
...cousins looks good. Preseason hero or whatever. I don't care. The throw he made under pressure while being tackled for like 20 yards to Andre Roberts was awesome. I wish he wouldn't have the interception issue. He would be an amazing qb. As for griff...I don't know. I'm not looking at numbers...he just doesn't look comfortable or that he "has it". It almost looks like I'm watching a player on the verge of giving up. That's probably not true...but it's just the feeling I get in my gut.
Special teams is terrible. The second fumble just happened. It is disgusting that special teams is still this bad year after year.
The defense didn't look terrible...but didn't look great either. I was hoping to see more of an improvement on our 1st team...didn't seem like that much of an improvement.
I can't wait to see amo and Matt Jones (who) Matt Jones in the regular season. They are going to be fun as he'll to watch.