Gameday Thread: Redskins vs Lions

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So you thought the lions would come in here and whip rg3 like a little bitch?

The Lions first team whooped our whole first team. I was hoping we would fare better, but I'm not going to pretend like I knew it would be this bad. At the same time, they were a playoff team last year and we've won 7 games in the past two years and we're rebuilding. So you do the math.

[SFREDSKIN]

I like this Bell kid.

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Lions first team whooped our whole first team. I was hoping we would fare better, but I'm not going to pretend like I knew it would be this bad. At the same time, they were a playoff team last year and we've won 7 games in the past two years and we're rebuilding. So you do the math.

I am tired of that word "rebuilding". It presumes something is actually getting built. Almost 20 years of this shit. Can you honestly say the Skins are better than last year, or think they will be better next year than they have been the last 15 years?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I am tired of that word "rebuilding". It presumes something is actually getting built. Almost 20 years of this shit. Can you honestly say the Skins are better than last year, or think they will be better next year than they have been the last 15 years?

I can say honestly it is....idiotic to try and....conjure that from a game and a half of pre-season.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I am tired of that word "rebuilding". It presumes something is actually getting built. Almost 20 years of this shit. Can you honestly say the Skins are better than last year, or think they will be better next year than they have been the last 15 years?

Well you can't rebuild a team when you mortgage all of your picks on one rookie (Shanny years) and had a lot of failed mid/lower round picks.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I am tired of that word "rebuilding". It presumes something is actually getting built. Almost 20 years of this shit. Can you honestly say the Skins are better than last year, or think they will be better next year than they have been the last 15 years?

The word rebuilding is a crutch. Anytime a team sucks something awful, the word "rebuilding" gets thrown around.

Real rebuilding implies, scrapping everything, starting over, seeing improvement over the years but slowly being able to see pieces come together here and there.

On the defensive side of the ball, I might be able to buy that. The young guys show some promise.

On the offensive side of the ball, that's not rebuilding. The offense Still looks out of sync. The O-line is still looking shaky. RG3 is still making the same mental mistakes. He's still fumbling the ball. On the play he got injured, it wasn't even the O-line's fault. And looks like he's still soft and injury prone.

At some point people are going to have to address the elephant in the room.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The word rebuilding is a crutch. Anytime a team sucks something awful, the word "rebuilding" gets thrown around.

Real rebuilding implies, scrapping everything, starting over, seeing improvement over the years but slowly being able to see pieces come together here and there.

On the defensive side of the ball, I might be able to buy that. The young guys show some promise.

On the offensive side of the ball, that's not rebuilding. The offense Still looks out of sync. The O-line is still looking shaky. RG3 is still making the same mental mistakes. He's still fumbling the ball. On the play he got injured, it wasn't even the O-line's fault. And looks like he's still soft and injury prone.

At some point people are going to have to address the elephant in the room.

I hate to say, but I completely agree!

As I mentioned, Colt McCoy looked a lot more professional than RG3.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The word rebuilding is a crutch. Anytime a team sucks something awful, the word "rebuilding" gets thrown around.

Real rebuilding implies, scrapping everything, starting over, seeing improvement over the years but slowly being able to see pieces come together here and there.

Well the problem is that before this year, the team was not rebuilding. This is the first year of that rebuilding process.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well the problem is that before this year, the team was not rebuilding. This is the first year of that rebuilding process.

I think the first thing we need to do to start real rebuilding is get rid of RG3.

I don't know if that means Cousins, or drafting a guy, or bringing in someone who's already established in the NFL but if we get halfway into this season and RG3 is still the RG3 who's been nothing if not a complete and utter disappointment the past couple of seasons, we need to cut our losses stat. You've had a whole off-season to study, heal and work. You've had 2 seasons with the playbook. I just don't see RG3 coming back if the Skins don't end the season at 8-8. I'd maybe even give him 6-10 but I feel like below .500 doesn't bode well for a guy who has been squandering chance after chance.

And yeah he's been injured, but this is the year to put that injury excuse to bed.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think the first thing we need to do to start real rebuilding is get rid of RG3.

I don't know if that means Cousins, or drafting a guy, or bringing in someone who's already established in the NFL but if we get halfway into this season and RG3 is still the RG3 who's been nothing if not a complete and utter disappointment the past couple of seasons, we need to cut our losses stat. You've had a whole off-season to study, heal and work. You've had 2 seasons with the playbook. I just don't see RG3 coming back if the Skins don't end the season at 8-8. I'd maybe even give him 6-10 but I feel like below .500 doesn't bode well for a guy who has been squandering chance after chance.

And yeah he's been injured, but this is the year to put that injury excuse to bed.

The mistake this team has made is to try to bring a QB to a bad team and hope that the QB magically fixes the team.

You know who were Seattle's QBs in Pete Carroll's first two years when he was rebuilding that team? A washed up Matt Hasselbeck, Clipboard Jesus, Tavaris Jackson, JP Losman, and Josh Portis. Yet during those two years, he (with McCloughan on the front office staff), build the team that has been to two Superbowls.

We're on year one of the rebuilding process, all the QBs on this roster could be gone by next season. And maybe this team won't have a QB of the future until next year or the next. But if we're following the Seattle blueprint, the team has to build a complete team and not be QB-obsessed.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The mistake this team has made is to try to bring a QB to a bad team and hope that the QB magically fixes the team.

You know who were Seattle's QBs in Pete Carroll's first two years when he was rebuilding that team? A washed up Matt Hasselbeck, Clipboard Jesus, Tavaris Jackson, JP Losman, and Josh Portis. Yet during those two years, he (with McCloughan on the front office staff), build the team that has been to two Superbowls.

We're on year one of the rebuilding process, all the QBs on this roster could be gone by next season. And maybe this team won't have a QB of the future until next year or the next. But if we're following the Seattle blueprint, the team has to build a complete team and not be QB-obsessed.

Well we're on year 4 of the RG3 Projekt.

If we're banking on another 2 or 3 years of moving pieces around to fit the RG3 script (which I assume is part of the bigger Redskins Projekt), I might have to look into getting a Valium prescription.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I am tired of that word "rebuilding". It presumes something is actually getting built. Almost 20 years of this shit. Can you honestly say the Skins are better than last year, or think they will be better next year than they have been the last 15 years?

Its actually more like 25