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Old 08-26-2015, 11:09 AM   #1
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

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This is a great breakdown between Kirk and Robert. Both have the same play ran with basically the same defense. See how one reacts and the other does.

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Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:03 PM   #2
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

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Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.
I think you mean David Carr,although Derrick might get there soon enough
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Old 08-26-2015, 05:16 PM   #3
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I think you mean David Carr,although Derrick might get there soon enough
Yup...I did mean David Carr....although you are right about Derrick Carr
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Old 08-26-2015, 09:03 PM   #4
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Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.
And it's been widely reported that he often calls the wrong protection at the line. He doesn't appear to have much pre-snap recognition either, which forces him to be too reactionary. Doesn't seem to anticipate who is likely to be open on a given play or where to expect pressure.
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And it's been widely reported that he often calls the wrong protection at the line. He doesn't appear to have much pre-snap recognition either, which forces him to be too reactionary. Doesn't seem to anticipate who is likely to be open on a given play or where to expect pressure.
Cooley was talking about the protection call today in the context of assigning blame.

Smith got savaged in the media the day after the game for his play. It was not good, but if you listened to the film breakdown the other day, Cooley said it wasn't as bad as the knee jerk columnists made it out to be. Hopefully, if TW gets dinged somebody else will be the sub.

He said that every player in the locker room knows how everyone else is playing, good or bad. They also know that Griffin blew the protection call. The quickest way to lose the locker room, if it hasn't happened with the coddling already, is to let a guy get blamed for something that wasn't his fault in such a public way.

The audio link isn't up on epsn 980 yet because it wasn't a special segment. The discussion is a very interesting listen and makes sense anyway you think about; from a player's perspective or just human nature.

They also discussed the pros and cons of cutting Griffin now before the season started. The way to sell it being it is in Griffin's best interest to get a fresh start.
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Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.

I'm not disagreeing about performance, but these two thoughts on the reason for his struggles seems to be contradictory.

He only looks downfield at primary receivers, but he checks down too much?

It seems to me, that would be like saying: He stays in the pocket too long when he should scramble, but gives up on the play and runs too often.

I don't know, maybe it's all of the above at different times, but these seem like symtoms and not diagnosees. Which I think would support your confidence theory.

But, IMO, I think the O-line is the root cause. How can he improve if he is being trounced constantly? I have always felt it was a mistake to invest in QB when our line sucked so much.

So at this point, even if he is hopeless, why move on and risk the next franchise QB being 'ruined' by piss poor pass protection?
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