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Old 09-01-2015, 07:32 PM   #1
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

Against the Ravens, RGIII looked dreadful. I'm sorry he got hurt but it was obvious he hadn't learned a thing about staying in the pocket. The move to put Cousins in as quarterback is the right move. RGIII needs to move on.
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:34 PM   #2
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IF the Redskins were the ONLY team to ever whiff on a draft pick I would really be upset..but as any real football fan knows there have been a lot of whiffs..I loved the pick at that time! ..Looking back Shanny and Kyle were the perfect fit for RGlll (he was rookie of year!!…lets not forget that!!)…what the hell happened?? INJURY..INJURIES..THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED! RGlll lost several steps and all his confidence plus add in all the other drama with coaching changes,Ownership issue and other factors why is it a surprise? Heath Shuler was a major whiff and there has been a lot of others ..The Skins saw the future gave up a ton to go after it and after that first season EVERYBODY gave the move a Thumbs up!..but that one game vs SEATTLE ..that injury and you know the rest of the story. I hope that RGlll somehow can get it back and have a career in the Nfl ..but at this point it does not look good ,who's fault is it..NOBODY is at fault! it is the way life is ..it happens all the time to average folks in all walks of life. I say let the Redskins deal with all this the way they see fit and as fans we get behind the team and who ever is qb and support them OR move on ..I know we all are disappointed but how do you think RGlll ,Dan Snyder and all the rest feel.. NOBODY WANTED THIS ..but we got to move on! Lets get behind this team !! GO SKINS!!
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Old 09-01-2015, 08:32 PM   #3
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

There was Griffin before the second ACL tear, and then the guy afterwards who just seemed to get worse the more he played. I don't think the system matters.

Gruden is definately on the hot seat, he should be. He talks as much as anyone.
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Old 09-01-2015, 08:53 PM   #4
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

Cooley's film breakdown of the offense from Baltimore:

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Cooley theorized the Raven's had a game plan to kill RG3. He said they blitzed like crazy. Every play in the 2 min drill.

It's a really good listen.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:10 PM   #5
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Oh Yay I'm a starter now, I just noticed. It only took 9 years of riding the pine.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:21 PM   #6
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Griffin ran read option plays last year. Please stop saying he won't run them, that is false.
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:39 PM   #7
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Griffin ran read option plays last year. Please stop saying he won't run them, that is false.
He hardly ever kept the ball even when there seemed to be nothing but green in front of him. He didn't seem into it.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:22 PM   #8
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

A comprehensive history of how Washington ruined Robert Griffin III's body, mind and spirit - SBNation.com

This is a good read, but long. This might be the best article I have ever read on RG3's career with the Redskins, which now appears to be in retrospect. There are cool embedded GIF's of RG3's various injuries, and honestly, upon watching them again, were quite gruesome.

His future seemed so immense in 2012, but it was obvious that the knee injury, and concussions are most likely career-ending in the sense that he most likely will never, ever, be anything close to what he once was. Not even a shadow. I think his best bet is to get a fresh start somewhere else, as a backup where he can learn the fine points of the game, and perhaps some team will give him a shot again to start. I just think while only 25, his body has suffered terrible injuries and is no longer up to NFL duty...
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:41 PM   #9
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A comprehensive history of how Washington ruined Robert Griffin III's body, mind and spirit - SBNation.com

This is a good read, but long. This might be the best article I have ever read on RG3's career with the Redskins, which now appears to be in retrospect. There are cool embedded GIF's of RG3's various injuries, and honestly, upon watching them again, were quite gruesome.

His future seemed so immense in 2012, but it was obvious that the knee injury, and concussions are most likely career-ending in the sense that he most likely will never, ever, be anything close to what he once was. Not even a shadow. I think his best bet is to get a fresh start somewhere else, as a backup where he can learn the fine points of the game, and perhaps some team will give him a shot again to start. I just think while only 25, his body has suffered terrible injuries and is no longer up to NFL duty...
Got hurt on scrambles, which every QB has to do from time to time. Couldn't get out of bounds or slide, and thought it would be safer in the pocket. Boy was he wrong.
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:02 AM   #10
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A comprehensive history of how Washington ruined Robert Griffin III's body, mind and spirit - SBNation.com

This is a good read, but long. This might be the best article I have ever read on RG3's career with the Redskins, which now appears to be in retrospect. There are cool embedded GIF's of RG3's various injuries, and honestly, upon watching them again, were quite gruesome.

His future seemed so immense in 2012, but it was obvious that the knee injury, and concussions are most likely career-ending in the sense that he most likely will never, ever, be anything close to what he once was. Not even a shadow. I think his best bet is to get a fresh start somewhere else, as a backup where he can learn the fine points of the game, and perhaps some team will give him a shot again to start. I just think while only 25, his body has suffered terrible injuries and is no longer up to NFL duty...
I think there is plenty of blame to go around for the demise of RG3.
Unmentioned by most is other than Russell Wilson the effectiveness of the
dual threat QB has been minimized. An example since 2012 Colin Kaepernick's
numbers have dropped substantially, like Robert his YPC is down over 2 yards
a carry from 2012. Different system, injured or not a repeat of 2012 wasn't
happening in 2015, defenses would not allow it.

Only a blind man would think Robert's first injury was handled well, he was returned to action when the risk of making the knee 100% worse was real
high. Shanahan let him play against Seattle until they almost killed him. I
don't care what Robert wanted to do, he doesn't run the show and the coach
has to look out for the players.

I won't lay any blame on Robert for rumors, just what I see with my own two
eyes. It is real simple, when defenses and injuries took away the skills that made him offensive rookie of the year in 2012, he failed to adapt. He has shown ZERO improvement learning to play from the pocket. Please don't blame
the current schemes or play calling, the explosive first step and world class speed are gone. 2012's playbook wouldn't work even if defenses didn't evolve.


Who knows if he sits and gets with the right coach some new dance moves
can be learned. There have been many a slow footed NFL QB who had great pocket mobility. What mental issues he had with the game are all rumor,
but if he did have trouble with reads the old Robert bought time with his
sprinters burst, the new Robert can't do that. I have found the only easily obvious reading problem (viewing from your couch). Is the one read QB who locks on receivers (see Colin Kaepernick). I didn't notice Robert doing that.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:30 PM   #11
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Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season

Speaking of social media:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...daniel-snyder/

What do you think? Is RG3 innocent on this one?
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:21 PM   #12
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Speaking of social media:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...daniel-snyder/

What do you think? Is RG3 innocent on this one?
i have a few questions:

Who's intern? His? The Redskins'? If it's the Redskins', why didn't they "set the record straight?" Was this intern fired? If it's his . . . WTF? Where do I get my intern? Was this intern trying to get him in trouble, or just stupid? Why the hell didn't he delete his account anyways? Or why not suspend the account until he started winning? Finally, who the fuck cares anyways?
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:18 PM   #13
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Cousins to start 2015 Season

I would love for Gruden to succeed because it gets old with the dysfunction and coaching carousel.

I just think he has put himself in a tough situation with how he dealt with press last season. Maybe he recovers and we chalk it up to rookie coach mistakes, but I just see pressure on him to at least get to 6 wins. I would consider it passable if they are much more competitive (in close games) than last season.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:31 PM   #14
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When and where did someone suggest the decision to bench Rob was based in racism?


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Old 09-01-2015, 10:40 PM   #15
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When and where did someone suggest the decision to bench Rob was based in racism?


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The podcast is there. I had to skip around that segment because most of it hurts my head. I think I may have listened to about 3 mins of that entire thing. I'm pissed you guys actually made my curiosity research that shit..
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