Cousins to start 2015 Season

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 30gut

blah blah blah

quoting out of context, missing the point, apologizing for RG3... hat trick! If you think RG3 ran as well in 2013 as in 2012, that's fine, I disagree (as would many), but I'm not getting sucked in to wasting time arguing about things that don't matter.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

quoting out of context, missing the point, apologizing for RG3... hat trick! If you think RG3 ran as well in 2013 as in 2012, that's fine, I disagree (as would many), but I'm not getting sucked in to wasting time arguing about things that don't matter.

Ugh. I agree 100% about not getting sucked into one of your bait and switch arguments.
But that doesn't mean I'm gonna let untrue statements pass unquestioned.

Here is what YOU said:

Originally Posted by That Guy

shanahan had a different QB than gruden, he had one the could run and wanted to run.

Here is my response:

Griffin can still run. And to be clear Griffin did run read-option in 2013.

Notice no where is the argument being made that Griffin ran as well in 2013 as he did in 2012. I didn't make that point and you didn't either.

So now that you shifted your point to: If you think RG3 ran as well in 2013 as in 2012. Sure I agree that Griffin in 2013 wasn't as dynamic a player as he was in 2012.

[SolidSnake84]

So the possibility exists that perhaps RG3 never sees an NFL field again as a starter / #2 QB. I wonder if he just doesn't quietly disappear from the league.

So the question i think can now be asked: Is/Was RG3 a bust? I say yes.

[MTK]

He will play again. Book it.

Too many mediocre QBs out there, someone will take a chance on his talent.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He will play again. Book it.

Too many mediocre QBs out there, someone will take a chance on his talent.

Yea....someone else will take a chance. Might even work out. But it just became too much of a circus here (again) but without the benefit of progression and good play.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Yea....someone else will take a chance. Might even work out. But it just became too much of a circus here (again) but without the benefit of progression and good play.

... and that, my friend's is that.

RGIII is a talented athlete. Much more athletically gifted than KC will ever be. Whether or not he will ever catch the lightning in a bottle that was 2012 again is debatable. As That Guy and current coaches (apparently) have said, that RGIII is gone. After three concussions, a second ACL tear, and a horrific ankle injury, the QB who sprinted 76 yards against Minnesota - and outran everyone on the field - is just a memory.

Someone will invest in him. I just think his shot at lasting success has come and gone. After this season, his conversion to journeyman QB begins. I hope he can and I hope he flashes again. Just not betting on it.

[skinsfaninok]

Don't blame ya smoot.

[MTK]

He could get hurt lifting weights. Can't put him in bubble wrap.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He could get hurt lifting weights. Can't put him in bubble wrap.

Or can we???

[JoeRedskin]

If JG & KC go, but RGIII stays after what he put on tape the last two years, no decent coach will come here. Regardless of your belief in RGIII's ability to revive his career, what the potential hires will see is two head coaches gone and the QB who played poorly under both - and made some damning public comments - still here.

If JG fails, all three go and we hit the reset button with SM calling the shots. My hope is that JG succeeds and improves from last year.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

If JG & KC go, but RGIII stays after what he put on tape the last two years, no decent coach will come here. Regardless of your belief in RGIII's ability to revive his career, what the potential hires will see is two head coaches gone and the QB who played poorly under both - and made some damning public comments - still here.

If JG fails, all three go and we hit the reset button with SM calling the shots. My hope is that JG succeeds and improves from last year.

THAT....ain't gonna happen

[calia]

Originally Posted by Hog1

THAT....ain't gonna happen

Honestly, if Snyder canned Scot and stuck with RGIII, I would be done with this team after 40+ years (and I like RGIII). Snyder is my age, which means he'll probably own the team for the rest of my life. But if that level of meddling torpedoes the current trajectory on Scot's watch (which, based on Sunday, seems pretty promising -- winning in the trenches is the key, and we've made real strides), I will be forced to conclude that the Redskins are doomed basically for the rest of my life. I really, really hope this doesn't happen.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by calia

Honestly, if Snyder canned Scot and stuck with RGIII,

Not sure which part of the discussion you jumped in on but we were discussing the hypotheticals if Jay got fired.

Personally, I can't see anyway Scott gets fired. But, J isn't Scott's guy. And if J fails this year, with "his" QB I can see how Scott would be ready to move in with "his" guy.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Not sure which part of the discussion you jumped in on but we were discussing the hypotheticals if Jay got fired.

Personally, I can't see anyway Scott gets fired. But, J isn't Scott's guy. And if J fails this year, with "his" QB I can see how Scott would be ready to move in with "his" guy.

Do you really believe that SM would keep Griffin if he lets Gruden go.

[calia]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Not sure which part of the discussion you jumped in on but we were discussing the hypotheticals if Jay got fired.

Personally, I can't see anyway Scott gets fired. But, J isn't Scott's guy. And if J fails this year, with "his" QB I can see how Scott would be ready to move in with "his" guy.

It seems clear that RGIII isn't high on Scot's list of starting QBs. If Snyder really thinks that RGIII is the guy to lead the team and keeps pushing (or demanding as folks seem to think is happening behind the scenes), I can imagine friction there. Let's be honest, there's been friction with everyone, save Gibbs, and the owner. I don't disagree that it's far more likely that Jay gets axed before Scot does, but our owner is capable of anything.

I tend to think something will happen with RGIII before the end of the season anyway.