Cousins to start 2015 Season

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by NoCalHail

It's a Redskins message board and Griffin is a member of the team for now.

Yes...but for weeks now it's been the same thing. People have a conversation and 30 tells them how they are wrong no matter how valid the point, then makes a loaded question to respond. Then he tells them they are unresponsive to his questions and then more loaded questions. And this is a cousins thread about his time starting. Instead clown shoes wants to talk about, at length, how he's correct about our injury prone, underwhelming 3rd string qb.
Shit just gets old.
So yes....Griffin is a part of the team. But, an inactive part as of sunday. So why don't we discuss the active players instead of the ones who aren't even dressing?

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Yes...but for weeks now it's been the same thing. People have a conversation and 30 tells them how they are wrong no matter how valid the point, then makes a loaded question to respond. Then he tells them they are unresponsive to his questions and then more loaded questions. And this is a cousins thread about his time starting. Instead clown shoes wants to talk about, at length, how he's correct about our injury prone, underwhelming 3rd string qb.

Shit just gets old.

So yes....Griffin is a part of the team. But, an inactive part as of sunday. So why don't we discuss the active players instead of the ones who aren't even dressing?

This.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Yes...but for weeks now it's been the same thing. People have a conversation and 30 tells them how they are wrong no matter how valid the point, then makes a loaded question to respond. Then he tells them they are unresponsive to his questions and then more loaded questions. And this is a cousins thread about his time starting. Instead clown shoes wants to talk about, at length, how he's correct about our injury prone, underwhelming 3rd string qb.
Shit just gets old.
So yes....Griffin is a part of the team. But, an inactive part as of sunday. So why don't we discuss the active players instead of the ones who aren't even dressing?

For that very reason I put 30 on my ignore list. I just can't deal with that repetitive non sense for so long.

[OnceWeWereKings]

I'm fairly certain I'm on his. The only reason he isn't on mine is because I would get all thrown off if posts were missing out of a thread.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

I'm fairly certain I'm on his. The only reason he isn't on mine is because I would get all thrown off if posts were missing out of a thread.

With him, it doesn't make much imagination to figure out what he said.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NoCalHail

It's a Redskins message board and Griffin is a member of the team for now.

but this is such an exhasted topic and we are essentially talking about a 3rd string QB.

Should we next talk about Kendric Golston? Its pretty clear Golston isnt going to be starting at DE/DT, but wouldnt u at least give him a chance? His use doesnt conform to the scheme, but maybe there is a way if we gave him a look and coached him up...Well maybe if Jay loses his job Golston finally gets that opportunity.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

but this is such an exhasted topic and we are essentially talking about a 3rd string QB.

Should we next talk about Kendric Golston? Its pretty clear Golston isnt going to be starting at DE/DT, but wouldnt u at least give him a chance? His use doesnt conform to the scheme, but maybe there is a way if we gave him a look and coached him up...Well maybe if Jay loses his job Golston finally gets that opportunity.

chico just won the thread. good game sir.

[OnceWeWereKings]

I had a friend who is a Denver fan. Saw him one night with a tebow jersey on. We got to talking a bit. I told him I thought Denver was a good team that had a ton of upside, but tebow would not be the answer for them. He did the same thing I read here. Told me I was wrong then asked questions with only one way to answer. I had no leverage to even speak let alone share or discuss. Haven't talked to him since because it was that fristrating. With all his stats and loaded remarks....it didn't matter. Not in the least.....and why is that? Because no matter what the stats or loaded questions were the fact still remained that tebow, as amazing an athlete as he is, just isn't an NFL calibre quarterback.
So this whole thread has turned into that exact conversation at the bar with a friend that just talks louder than you waving his hands for anyone within ear shot to hear his point. Even though, he's ultimately 100% incorrect, and doesn't even know it.

[MTK]

With Scot around, it's hard to imagine Griffin here another year. I think it's clear they're moving on.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With Scot around, it's hard to imagine Griffin here another year. I think it's clear they're moving on.

So why is he still on the team? I'm really curious as to this.

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The sad thing for us that we didn't have real talent evaluators before we drafted him. I for one am not an evaluator, and I watched his tape and loved him. I think that's what DS and BA did in 2012 as well. Can we move on now.

....or those talent evaluators were ignored by a fanboy and sidekick who was stricken by the Heisman winner's college game. The $$$ in his eyes were blinding him.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With Scot around, it's hard to imagine Griffin here another year. I think it's clear they're moving on.

I agree its hard to imagine right now. Because right now the perception is that Griffin is the problem.

And I agree 100% that its clear that J wants to move on with Kirk. But what IF that decision proves to be wrong?

That's the scenario where Griffin would be back on the table. IF the decision to move to Kirk proves to be a failure.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I agree its hard to imagine right now. Because right now the perception is that Griffin is the problem.



And I agree 100% that its clear that J wants to move on with Kirk. But what IF that decision proves to be wrong?



That's the scenario where Griffin would be back on the table. IF the decision to move to Kirk proves to be a failure.

Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.

I agree and said earlier that IF Kirk fails that the first order of business for Scott is to hire a HC and together pick "their" QB. But IF Kirk/J fail I don't see why that would preclude Griffin from returning to compete. It would be the same scenario as Harbaugh, Smith and Kaep except Griffin being a much more accomplished QB then Smith at that point.

And if you're saying Griffin has proven to be a failure then by the same token Kirk is failure. At this juncture the stats don't support 1 QB having a large measure of separation form the other. And to be really accurate Griffin's only real "failure" was during his short tenure with Jay (7 starts). Prior to that he was phenomenal and average.

Maybe Scott has seen enough. All this is moot if Kirk and Jay produce like we all want them. But IF they fail? I can see Scott wondering about Griffin's lost opportunity, like with Alex Smith.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Maybe Scott has seen enough. All this is moot if Kirk and Jay produce like we all want them. But IF they fail? I can see Scott wondering about Griffin's lost opportunity, like with Alex Smith.

You may have a hard time accepting SS's information. For far too many reasons and based on far to many independently verified statements, I don't.
If SS says - without equivocation - that SM is not a fan of RGIII, you can take it to the bank.

Right now, SM is sneaking in the tall grass looking for the right trade.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Griffin has already proven to be a failure, that's why Kirk is playing. If KC doesn't work out it's likely a fresh slate at QB next year. I just don't see how RG3 plays here again. I think at this point SM has seen enough and wiped his hands of the situation.

THIS, 1000x's THIS

the 2012 draft is done, all the costs of that draft are gone. IF our record and performance requires starting anew with a new HC, then he will be bringing in the next 20-22year old stud, and we won't be talking about the 2012 draft no more.