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Old 09-01-2015, 02:06 PM   #1
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For real... man cave, Instagram, Facebook, is this a football team or a damn boy band with all this nonsense that gets everyone riled
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I don't even know what man cave is nor do I give two shits

I am not trying to directly bad mouth anyone, but considering that Jason Reid is the host of "man cave" you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself if you listen to THAT clown.

Insert billy Madison moderator guy...anyone who listens to one word out of that moron's mouth loses iq and brain power.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:28 PM   #2
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For real... man cave, Instagram, Facebook, is this a football team or a damn boy band with all this nonsense that gets everyone riled
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I don't even know what man cave is nor do I give two shits
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:23 PM   #3
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I don't think anybody gets "riled" up over the non-football stuff, but I have to disagree with anybody's notion that it doesn't matter. Au contraire. When you lose or don't perform, it does matter. It matters. Which is where we've been at since the end of 2012. Non-performing. In the grand scheme of it all, all the inspirational quotes, throwing teammates under bus, social media faux pas doesn't do any "harm" to anybody and it doesn't get in the way of the product on the field come Sunday on a team aspect.

However, let's look a bit deeper and realize while all this other non-football stuff is going on, the more important part of this is being neglected. The football side. So here we have our "franchise QB" is so concerned with his image, that he takes the time at 1am to "set the record" straight with the public. You know, it's quite a shame he didn't undertake his film study with such determination. Hell, while he's thumbing through Instagram liking pictures of himself, he could be watching film and realizing why he's missing pass protection schemes and delayed blitzes.

A few said early on that all those commercials and crap he was doing, was time that could be spent bettering himself as a football player. Yet, here we are 4 years later, and one of the two drafted QBs is known as a film junkie and the other a gym junkie. Which one do you think is starting for 2015? Should he capitalize on his fame and cash in? Sure, if you want to think short term. So he's made 20-30 million, when in reality he could possibly have been making 130-140 million had he focused more on being the passing QB he always talked about. I think he sold himself short on that lottery ticket.

Robert's made a conscious decision to build his "image" to being a star, instead of actually honing his skills to actually be one. Kirk went out and studied the film, knows the offense up and down, and knows what to do out of the field. Robert on the other hand doesn't. He's missing pass protection schemes and not seeing blitzes that should have been picked up at the line of scrimmage. These kinds of things you learn from film study. Period.

Also, many of those social faux pas done in interviews/instagram/facebook/twitter tell us a great deal about this individual. It tells us he's insecure and it also tells us he doesn't learn from mistakes because he continues to make them over and over again.(granted he's been taken out of context as well at times) If the guy doesn't get it when it comes to social settings, what makes anybody think he'll get complex defenses?

So keep saying it doesn't matter, but the reality of it is that it does. Very few neglect the cerebral side of being a QB and have a long career. This applies to many QBs that have come into this league, and not just Robert.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:38 PM   #4
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I don't think anybody gets "riled" up over the non-football stuff, but I have to disagree with anybody's notion that it doesn't matter. Au contraire. When you lose or don't perform, it does matter. It matters. Which is where we've been at since the end of 2012. Non-performing. In the grand scheme of it all, all the inspirational quotes, throwing teammates under bus, social media faux pas doesn't do any "harm" to anybody and it doesn't get in the way of the product on the field come Sunday on a team aspect.

However, let's look a bit deeper and realize while all this other non-football stuff is going on, the more important part of this is being neglected. The football side. So here we have our "franchise QB" is so concerned with his image, that he takes the time at 1am to "set the record" straight with the public. You know, it's quite a shame he didn't undertake his film study with such determination. Hell, while he's thumbing through Instagram liking pictures of himself, he could be watching film and realizing why he's missing pass protection schemes and delayed blitzes.

A few said early on that all those commercials and crap he was doing, was time that could be spent bettering himself as a football player. Yet, here we are 4 years later, and one of the two drafted QBs is known as a film junkie and the other a gym junkie. Which one do you think is starting for 2015? Should he capitalize on his fame and cash in? Sure, if you want to think short term. So he's made 20-30 million, when in reality he could possibly have been making 130-140 million had he focused more on being the passing QB he always talked about. I think he sold himself short on that lottery ticket.

Robert's made a conscious decision to build his "image" to being a star, instead of actually honing his skills to actually be one. Kirk went out and studied the film, knows the offense up and down, and knows what to do out of the field. Robert on the other hand doesn't. He's missing pass protection schemes and not seeing blitzes that should have been picked up at the line of scrimmage. These kinds of things you learn from film study. Period.

Also, many of those social faux pas done in interviews/instagram/facebook/twitter tell us a great deal about this individual. It tells us he's insecure and it also tells us he doesn't learn from mistakes because he continues to make them over and over again.(granted he's been taken out of context as well at times) If the guy doesn't get it when it comes to social settings, what makes anybody think he'll get complex defenses?

So keep saying it doesn't matter, but the reality of it is that it does. Very few neglect the cerebral side of being a QB and have a long career. This applies to many QBs that have come into this league, and not just Robert.
The off the field stuff is so overblown, I don't think there are any direct correlations to draw from it. If he were spending hours upon hours a day on social media, yeah it would be an issue, but the truth is we have no idea what he really does in his down time.

The most likely explanation for his lack of development is he's just not cut out to be a pocket passer. No shame in that, plenty of guys come and go and can't get it right no matter how hard they try. It's the hardest position in sports to master.

He's cooled it with the off the field stuff in the last year and it doesn't seem to have helped any.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:12 PM   #5
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I'm more amazed at the amount of people referring the Man Cave than any of the RG3 craziness going on.

I know there's some craziness going on, but a lot of you seem to be obsessed over it and seem to be biting on the media bait.
If obsessed is defined as pissed off that a "reputable" ESPN affiliate would suggest that the demotion of Robert could be based in racism.......I'm guilty. I do not like my Redskins being wrongly characterized in that way and I further take issue with a supposedly legitimate broadcaster casting cheap dispersion's at our expense for personal gain.
Even though this seems to be their......job
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If obsessed is defined as pissed off that a "reputable" ESPN affiliate would suggest that the demotion of Robert could be based in racism.......I'm guilty. I do not like my Redskins being wrongly characterized in that way and I further take issue with a supposedly legitimate broadcaster casting cheap dispersion's at our expense for personal gain.
Even though this seems to be their......job

2 can play at this game.

I'm not a Snyder fan, but he should scare BSPN with a little slandering lawsuit...
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I'm more amazed at the amount of people referring the Man Cave than any of the RG3 craziness going on.

I know there's some craziness going on, but a lot of you seem to be obsessed over it and seem to be biting on the media bait.
What is this Man Cave reference? I noticed people kept saying it, I don't know what the hell they are talking about? Sounds like it could be a good thing.
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What is this Man Cave reference? I noticed people kept saying it, I don't know what the hell they are talking about? Sounds like it could be a good thing.
it's a new radio show on espn980 in the dmv area. it's hosts are jason reid (a boyz fan) and chris paul (a guy that loves shouting on air for no reason).

it's terrible and really annoying. we used to get mike and mike instead, which was much better, because mike golic really knows what he's talking about (the other mike is annoying though, but at least they aren't talking over each other constantly).
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it's a new radio show on espn980 in the dmv area. it's hosts are jason reid (a boyz fan) and chris paul (a guy that loves shouting on air for no reason).

it's terrible and really annoying. we used to get mike and mike instead, which was much better, because mike golic really knows what he's talking about (the other mike is annoying though, but at least they aren't talking over each other constantly).
Ahhh, I'm not much for talk radio shows. I still listen to my country CD's. Don't get to here all the junk out there.
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Ahhh, I'm not much for talk radio shows. I still listen to my country CD's. Don't get to here all the junk out there.
You are only 32, from what I have seen the people that listen to talk radio and news over and above music are older. I remember when I was 14 wondering why my 40 year old step-dad was listening to KFI 640 am (Still around in the LA area they have a real strong signal, you used to get them all the way to Vegas)
in the mornings. Yet when I started approaching 40 I started to listen to sports talk more and more and music, less and less. I have friends that have done the same thing, we will see if you follow the trend. At 32 it was all about driving around listening to either classic rock or country.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:50 PM   #11
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@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.
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@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.
London Fletcher needs to stfu for once.
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@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.
As Chico has appropriately stated.....London Fletcher needs to STFU
And I'm not sure Jay has a whole lot of.....skin on the table? He nor Scott drafted any of the current crop of QB'S. Dan and Bruce's. He is simply trying to do the best he can with the cards he was dealt.
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@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.
Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.
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Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.
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