Cousins to start 2015 Season

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by kingj

Ok so bottom line you don't feel Gruden is on the hot seat regardless of performance?

If he doesn't get to 7 wins after all the talk he's done himself, then yeah I believe he's gone. I'm not pro-Griffin in case you are reading it that way.

I simply see both Griffin and Gruden not with the organization at start of 2016 season. It's not like Gruden is blameless in this circus. He has made his share of mistakes and this is his 2nd chance with his preferred qb just like last year was Griffin's 2nd chance until injuries, performance and his refusal to run R/O (whether accurate or not) did him in.

I would really like to see some continuity. I think there is some inherent value in not changing up every few years if you have a talented staff.

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

I think Gruden has upside. If we are moving to a power blocking line and McLovin's prototypical draft pick is what Gruden has already had success with I don't want to move on too early.

Not that Gruden is Marty Shottenheimer, I just don't want to bring in another Steve Spurrier after two years.

Last year seemed like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I'm for squaring up the hole and seeing what happens.

As for mistakes, he hasn't repeated the same bone head mistakes he made as a rookie head coach. New QB coach, no delay of game penalties, and has handled the media in the middle of a shit storm ok.

To be clear, unless there is a head coaching candidate that you just can't turn down (if there was, he wouldn't come to Washington anyway), then stay the course.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I would really like to see some continuity. I think there is some inherent value in not changing up every few years if you have a talented staff.

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

I think Gruden has upside. If we are moving to a power blocking line and McLovin's prototypical draft pick is what Gruden has already had success with I don't want to move on too early.

Not that Gruden is Marty Shottenheimer, I just don't want to bring in another Steve Spurrier after two years.

Last year seemed like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I'm for squaring up the hole and seeing what happens.

As for mistakes, he hasn't repeated the same bone head mistakes he made as a rookie head coach. New QB coach, no delay of game penalties, and has handled the media in the middle of a shit storm ok.

To be clear, unless there is a head coaching candidate that you just can't turn down (if there was, he wouldn't come to Washington anyway), then stay the course.

You know a buddy and I were talking the other night about all of the coaches that have came and went in Washington, so let me ask you....

What is the benefit of being HC with all that is known about ownership, etc.. Is it solely the money? I mean i have a hard time believing that the job is attractive with all the dysfunction, etc, knowing that he doesn't have final say on who plays, etc...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

You know a buddy and I were talking the other night about all of the coaches that have came and went in Washington, so let me ask you....

What is the benefit of being HC with all that is known about ownership, etc.. Is it solely the money? I mean i have a hard time believing that the job is attractive with all the dysfunction, etc, knowing that he doesn't have final say on who plays, etc...

Its been said many times. There are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs. 5-7 of those aren't opening up any time soon, ie Bellicheck, Carroll, Fox etc. So maybe 4-6 jobs open up a year, and they are fiercely competitive.

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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Its been said many times. There are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs. 5-7 of those aren't opening up any time soon, ie Bellicheck, Carroll, Fox etc. So maybe 4-6 jobs open up a year, and they are fiercely competitive.

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Sorry i should have specified what is the advantage of being REDSKINS HC - with all that is known about ownership, etc.... How is it attractive to the candidate other than the money....

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Sorry i should have specified what is the advantage of being REDSKINS HC - with all that is known about ownership, etc.... How is it attractive to the candidate other than the money....

It really doesn't change the answer. There are only a few HC spots ever open and if one is presented to you its not easy to turn it down. I also imagine Dans pretty good making the sale.

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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Sorry i should have specified what is the advantage of being REDSKINS HC - with all that is known about ownership, etc.... How is it attractive to the candidate other than the money....

Money isn't everything but it's way ahead of whatever's in second place.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

Nailed it. It takes time to build that roster but Gruden and Scot are heading in the same direction. Having RG3 out of the spotlight and probably off the roster, only helps get there quicker. Keep the continuity and vision. If KC can be a solid top 15 QB by 2016, I think we can really develop the roster and get things headed into 8-10 win territory pretty quick. The offense isn't as far away as some think. The secondary is the terrible though.

Scot will get us more 2's, 3's and 4's for the draft in 2016. That's where he shines and can really fill the roster out. I'm excited about the next few years. I don't expect deep playoff runs, I just want consistency and progress.