Brunell

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

That's ............ah............alot of conclusions/questions from a rather innocent remark. To address, 1) I do believe he has shown motivation to this point. I also believe any performance can be eclipsed given the proper environment 2) Irrelevant is pretty strong talk. Our passing game is taking shape and proving to be effective. It will greatly aid in said prevention, and asundry box stacking. 3) Are you asking me if I believe the entire Denver roster will be lining up opposite Portis, with coaching staff? No I don't believe that will happen. If it does, Poor, poor Clinton. 4) Bailey, ain't no Darryl Green! Finally, the air is getting pretty thin here as well!

Just addressing your so called conclusions predicated on nothing more than unrealistic thought, that's all.

Our passing game is taking shape? We had a nice game, NICE, Ray Rhodes is the defensive coordinator for Seattle I wouldn't get to worked up about it.

Denver is the real test.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offiss

Just addressing your so called conclusions predicated on nothing more than unrealistic thought, that's all.

Our passing game is taking shape? We had a nice game, NICE, Ray Rhodes is the defensive coordinator for Seattle I wouldn't get to worked up about it.

Denver is the real test.

Dear Off, Don't you think the passing game is taking shape?
Do you think Ray Rhodes is unconcerned with two last minute wins with nothing less than superhuman efforts on many peoples parts? Do you think Ray Rhodes imagines a team riding high on emotion, and confidence, just finding it's game (and 3-0) with numerous weapons the skins possess is not reason for concern? If you believe that does not get him "worked up", I don't think you know Ray Rhodes!
If I told you to "have a nice day", would I be pre-supposing events, yet undetermined, and existing solely in a future timeframe to be played out at a time and place not within my realm of control or speculation? Perhaps you have attached a ridiculous level of scrutiny to a rather innocuous statment?

However, I would agree, Denver is a real test

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Dear Off, Don't you think the passing game is taking shape?
Do you think Ray Rhodes is unconcerned with two last minute wins with nothing less than superhuman efforts on many peoples parts? Do you think Ray Rhodes imagines a team riding high on emotion, and confidence, just finding it's game (and 3-0) with numerous weapons the skins possess is not reason for concern? If you believe that does not get him "worked up", I don't think you know Ray Rhodes!
If I told you to "have a nice day", would I be pre-supposing events, yet undetermined, and existing solely in a future timeframe to be played out at a time and place not within my realm of control or speculation? Perhaps you have attached a ridiculous level of scrutiny to a rather innocuous statment?

However, I would agree, Denver is a real test

What does that have to do with the price of eggs in china?

What does Ray Rhodes getting worked up have anything to do with his ignorance as a coach?

I would imagine he would be very worked up, if I had no clue how to diagnois and stop offenses I would be worked up to, that doesn't mean he will be any better, our fire power is like a nucleur missle without a lauch sequence, it looks pretty powerful if you could get it off the ground.

My biggest point about this is that we have been fortunate to play teams who are less talented than us, and in seattle's case not as well coached. With denver we are in agreement, we have to go into an opposing teams stadium, against a good team, it's great we are 3-0 but be carefull of falling in love with that because we haven't faced real playoff caliber teams, which Denver is one of. If we beat Denver then we will have something to really hang our hats on, I just don't think we will, I believe they will bottle up our offense this week, and denver will do just enough on offense to beat us, but I hope I am wrong.

[offiss]

hog1- Are you saying he hasen't been motivated up till now?

No, that was my question for you, you stated that Portis should be motivated to play his old team, insinuating that with extra motivation he will be a real force to deal with. And my reply was if anyone should be motivated it should be Denver, Portis is the one who initiated the contract problems with Denver, not the other way around. Portis shouldn't need his old team to be motivated to run, I stated whether he is motivated or not is irrelevant, because so long as there's 7,8,9, men in the box he's going no where, regardless of his motivation, so to answer your question yes I think he's motivated, but no as far as extra motivation regarding Denver, he will run as well as the blocking will allow.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offiss

No, that was my question for you, you stated that Portis should be motivated to play his old team, insinuating that with extra motivation he will be a real force to deal with. And my reply was if anyone should be motivated it should be Denver, Portis is the one who initiated the contract problems with Denver, not the other way around. Portis shouldn't need his old team to be motivated to run, I stated whether he is motivated or not is irrelevant, because so long as there's 7,8,9, men in the box he's going no where, regardless of his motivation, so to answer your question yes I think he's motivated, but no as far as extra motivation regarding Denver, he will run as well as the blocking will allow.

Your post make no sense. However, if you think running backs and their success are tied strictly to the effectiveness of their respective lines, your wrong.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offiss

What does that have to do with the price of eggs in china?

What does Ray Rhodes getting worked up have anything to do with his ignorance as a coach?

I would imagine he would be very worked up, if I had no clue how to diagnois and stop offenses I would be worked up to, that doesn't mean he will be any better, our fire power is like a nucleur missle without a lauch sequence, it looks pretty powerful if you could get it off the ground.

My biggest point about this is that we have been fortunate to play teams who are less talented than us, and in seattle's case not as well coached. With denver we are in agreement, we have to go into an opposing teams stadium, against a good team, it's great we are 3-0 but be carefull of falling in love with that because we haven't faced real playoff caliber teams, which Denver is one of. If we beat Denver then we will have something to really hang our hats on, I just don't think we will, I believe they will bottle up our offense this week, and denver will do just enough on offense to beat us, but I hope I am wrong.

Let's just take it from "My biggest point....". I would agree this will be our most difficult asssignment to date. However, I agree with some others that have said, "this is the third time a good team, got bad, after we beat them". This is not to say we kicked the sh.. out of the Patriots, etc. That does not diminish the wins they have achieved. This is a team on the rise-dramatic rise. Each week, by leaps and bounds has their performance improved as has the opponents talent. Can they beat the Broncos-HELL YEA!
Lastly, I am in no danger of falling in love with a Superbowl holographic imposter of the skins. Since George Allen, and the many who have followed have I passionately carried the torch for the Redskins! At times, like a "tough love" child have I defended them. It is for these reasons I, like many of my brothers and sisters am I REALLY enjoying their rise to fame once again.
Gimme a hallelujah

[mooby]

how does a thread that starts out about brunell, then talks about what ramsey might've done, switch to being a thread about denver.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Let's just take it from "My biggest point....". I would agree this will be our most difficult asssignment to date. However, I agree with some others that have said, "this is the third time a good team, got bad, after we beat them". This is not to say we kicked the sh.. out of the Patriots, etc. That does not diminish the wins they have achieved. This is a team on the rise-dramatic rise. Each week, by leaps and bounds has their performance improved as has the opponents talent. Can they beat the Broncos-HELL YEA!
Lastly, I am in no danger of falling in love with a Superbowl holographic imposter of the skins. Since George Allen, and the many who have followed have I passionately carried the torch for the Redskins! At times, like a "tough love" child have I defended them. It is for these reasons I, like many of my brothers and sisters am I REALLY enjoying their rise to fame once again.
Gimme a hallelujah

Really what I am trying to say is this, I don't expect much out of us on offense, I am not looking at our offense as progressing, I look at what we did against Seattle, and know they are a stupid defense, that's why we scored a whopping 20 points, which I know for us is an onslaught, 2 TD's that's it, that's all we needed against Seattle, which is fine, but I want to be realistic on our chances against a real defense, and don't expect 11-15 on third down this week.

Will I be routing for them to win? Absofreakinlutly! But that doesn't mean I can't be objective as well, and I think that's the typical problem here, some of us don't want to just sit back and say we are going to just beat everyone we play, regardless if we are overmatched or not. Bottom line we can't move the ball against mediocre defenses, and so many here know we will do it against a defense as aggressive as denver's? I wouldn't be betting money on that.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offiss

Really what I am trying to say is this, I don't expect much out of us on offense, I am not looking at our offense as progressing, I look at what we did against Seattle, and know they are a stupid defense, that's why we scored a whopping 20 points, which I know for us is an onslaught, 2 TD's that's it, that's all we needed against Seattle, which is fine, but I want to be realistic on our chances against a real defense, and don't expect 11-15 on third down this week.

Will I be routing for them to win? Absofreakinlutly! But that doesn't mean I can't be objective as well, and I think that's the typical problem here, some of us don't want to just sit back and say we are going to just beat everyone we play, regardless if we are overmatched or not. Bottom line we can't move the ball against mediocre defenses, and so many here know we will do it against a defense as aggressive as denver's? I wouldn't be betting money on that.

I do not challenge your loyalty as a fan, nor your right to challenge any and all opinions. That is part of the fun of the board! I do challenge your implication that there is something meritorious, or innovative regarding the stance YOU take. It is an opinion, nothing more.
It is your choice to take a defeatest attitude, and call it something else if you like. There are those of us who choose not to.

I would hardly characterize Seattle as a stupid defense as the Seahawks have had a couple of good wins against decent, if not good teams. Ray Rhodes remains highly sought after defensive coach. He is considered visionary by many, and assembled the first REAL defense the skins had since the original post Gibbs apocalypse. Our offense is gaining momentum rapidly. To suggest otherwise, would be absurd. A win, or loss in Dever this weekend won't change that. I have niether read or observed anything that convinces me the SKins won't win this game. A TEST, Hell yes! A defeat, HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget to smell the roses today!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I do not challenge your loyalty as a fan, nor your right to challenge any and all opinions. That is part of the fun of the board! I do challenge your implication that there is something meritorious, or innovative regarding the stance YOU take. It is an opinion, nothing more.
It is your choice to take a defeatest attitude, and call it something else if you like. There are those of us who choose not to.

I would hardly characterize Seattle as a stupid defense as the Seahawks have had a couple of good wins against decent, if not good teams. Ray Rhodes remains highly sought after defensive coach. He is considered visionary by many, and assembled the first REAL defense the skins had since the original post Gibbs apocalypse. Our offense is gaining momentum rapidly. To suggest otherwise, would be absurd. A win, or loss in Dever this weekend won't change that. I have niether read or observed anything that convinces me the SKins won't win this game. A TEST, Hell yes! A defeat, HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget to smell the roses today!

Really what it will come down to is actions on the field, once that happens sunday you will see that I am right.

Our rapid growing offense? RAPID?????????

Ray Rhodes a VISIONAIRY? By many, Did he invent the wheel?

hog1-Your post make no sense. However, if you think running backs and their success are tied strictly to the effectiveness of their respective lines, your wrong

Really? So what you are saying is Portis stinks? Because I do believe he has the lowest yards per carry of any legitamate starting back last year. There is no back who doesn't need good blocking, you have power backs who can run people over and get yards that way, or you can be Barry Sanders, out of which Portis is neither, the fact is a great line, or great blocking schemes can make any back look good, [see denver] bottom line no back does anything without good blocking, did you ever hear the saying it all starts up front? Why is that? It's what a back does with that good blocking that seperates him from the rest of the backs!