NFL Training Camp thread!

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Agree ,I still think 90% of all the hate for the Pats is jealousy.

I just read a SI article that said 19 of the other 29 teams take special precautions when they play the Pats, that they do not take vs any other team. I find it hard to believe that teams who have so much game prep to do normally would make extra work just because of jealousy.

I think it is widely believed that they cheat, I think people who leave the organization admit cheating and word gets around.

So if you are the NFL and don't care about cheating then you can ignore it, but if you want to keep the integrity of your games then you have to go after the Pats.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I just read a SI article that said 19 of the other 29 teams take special precautions when they play the Pats, that they do not take vs any other team. I find it hard to believe that teams who have so much game prep to do normally would make extra work just because of jealousy.



I think it is widely believed that they cheat, I think people who leave the organization admit cheating and word gets around.



So if you are the NFL and don't care about cheating then you can ignore it, but if you want to keep the integrity of your games then you have to go after the Pats.

Exactly, this was not just about deflategate. Every team doctors the footballs; it's the accumulation of past transgressions.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I just read a SI article that said 19 of the other 29 teams take special precautions when they play the Pats, that they do not take vs any other team. I find it hard to believe that teams who have so much game prep to do normally would make extra work just because of jealousy.

I think it is widely believed that they cheat, I think people who leave the organization admit cheating and word gets around.

So if you are the NFL and don't care about cheating then you can ignore it, but if you want to keep the integrity of your games then you have to go after the Pats.

There's cheating and there's rule bending. I think the Pats have mostly danced along the lines and done everything they can to win games but I haven't heard anything that I would consider cheating other than jamming radios etc. Anyone who thinks BB just came up with all this stuff on his own and that none of it has occurred elsewhere in the league is naive.

I have no issue with cleaning it up but a good commissioner knows how to fix problems in the shadows. If you want to fix a marriage, you don't go to the media and call her an alcoholic whore, you talk about it privately. Goodell did nothing to improve the leagues image, he only devalued it by dragging the sports biggest star through the mud without considering the implications and without having his act together.

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

There's cheating and there's rule bending. I think the Pats have mostly danced along the lines and done everything they can to win games but I haven't heard anything that I would consider cheating other than jamming radios etc. Anyone who thinks BB just came up with all this stuff on his own and that none of it has occurred elsewhere in the league is naive.

I have no issue with cleaning it up but a good commissioner knows how to fix problems in the shadows. If you want to fix a marriage, you don't go to the media and call her an alcoholic whore, you talk about it privately. Goodell did nothing to improve the leagues image, he only devalued it by dragging the sports biggest star through the mud without considering the implications and without having his act together.

I don't know if I can call sneaking into opposing locker rooms and hotel rooms to steal playbooks/game material as "bending" the rules.

And I do not believe that "everyone does it" line.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I don't know if I can call sneaking into opposing locker rooms and hotel rooms to steal playbooks/game material as "bending" the rules.

And I do not believe that "everyone does it" line.

There are teams doing each one of those things in the league. The difference is that BB is doing them all..

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I don't know if I can call sneaking into opposing locker rooms and hotel rooms to steal playbooks/game material as "bending" the rules.

And I do not believe that "everyone does it" line.

So is it cheating if when the opposing team is playing in your stadium and you open the main field access door to create a cross wind ?

[Giantone]

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The Washington Redskins Complete Cheating History - Your Team Cheats - The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So is it cheating if when the opposing team is playing in your stadium and you open the main field access door to create a cross wind ?

Is there a specific rule about that like there is a rule about the PSI of game balls and NOT taping signals? Because those 2 things are in the NFL rule book.