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Old 09-10-2015, 11:55 AM   #1
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Can anyone venture to explain rule 3?

im guessing middle routes are drags and things coming across the field so if you throw late, you might be throwing behind a guy?

congestion in middle = increased opportunity for things to go bad vs sideline or over coverage?
Yup - pretty sure you nailed it. I hear announcers and QB's say it all the time. A lot can go wrong with ball being thrown in the middle of the field after the route concepts have already developed and DB's have time to adjust. An overthrow to the sidelines goes out of bounds. An overthrow down the deep middle ends up in the hands of a safety. (Well, not if it's one of our safeties, but I hear other safeties catch them).
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:27 PM   #2
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The margin for error is pretty small in the middle of the field. If the throw drifts either direction or too far/too short, someone is there. On sideline throws you can err the throw more towards the sideline and make it a much higher chance of an incompletion if your guy doesn't bring it down.

oops.. JoeRedskin pretty much said the same..
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:57 PM   #3
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RGIII still not cleared from concussion - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Redskins XTRA


What kind of charade is this going on? Cooley even stated on the radio a couple weeks ago that it was easy to get cleared, so what is the issue here? They are dragging this shit out for a particular reason.
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Old 09-10-2015, 04:07 PM   #4
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RGIII still not cleared from concussion - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Redskins XTRA





What kind of charade is this going on? Cooley even stated on the radio a couple weeks ago that it was easy to get cleared, so what is the issue here? They are dragging this shit out for a particular reason.

Still trying to find trade?
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Old 09-10-2015, 04:20 PM   #5
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It's to RG3's advantage to not be cleared since he gets paid and can't be cut. How hard would it be to slow yourself down a half second to be worse than your baseline tests? My suspicion is that as soon as he sees an offer from the Redskins or someone else that he likes, he'll magically pass with flying colors..
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It's to RG3's advantage to not be cleared since he gets paid and can't be cut. How hard would it be to slow yourself down a half second to be worse than your baseline tests? My suspicion is that as soon as he sees an offer from the Redskins or someone else that he likes, he'll magically pass with flying colors..
And if he never gets cleared to play again he hits the jackpot... Right?
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Old 09-10-2015, 07:11 PM   #7
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It's to RG3's advantage to not be cleared since he gets paid and can't be cut. How hard would it be to slow yourself down a half second to be worse than your baseline tests? My suspicion is that as soon as he sees an offer from the Redskins or someone else that he likes, he'll magically pass with flying colors..
Doctors can see through BS like that. No way to fake MRIs or CT scans either.
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Doctors can see through BS like that. No way to fake MRIs or CT scans either.

And Griffin doesn't really strike me as that type. It seems like he badly wants to play football
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Doctors can see through BS like that. No way to fake MRIs or CT scans either.
From the NCAA..

"Most return-to-play protocols are similar to those in the Consensus Statement on Concussion in Sport guidelines which outline a progressive increase in physical activity if the individual is at baseline before starting the protocol and remains at baseline throughout each step of the protocol."

The League and it's doctors are going to err on the side of caution. If says he's symptomatic, he won't be cleared. That might get a closer look after a few weeks but in the short term, there's nothing stopping him from doing so. MRIs or CT scans alone would never clear a player from a concussion.
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It's to RG3's advantage to not be cleared since he gets paid and can't be cut. How hard would it be to slow yourself down a half second to be worse than your baseline tests? My suspicion is that as soon as he sees an offer from the Redskins or someone else that he likes, he'll magically pass with flying colors..
Many people have pointed out that RG3 seems like the kind of person who would "find a way' to fail the tests and or otherwise look injured / not well so that he can guarantee his 17 million for next year.

However - it might be that he is actually dealing with brain issues / injury. Someone on here posted a link to an excellent article that detailed every one of RG3's sports injuries since college and the NFL, and he has had 4 concussions since college, counting the one against Detroit. That is a lot, and he is getting close to the number that has had some pro QB's call it quits after a long career. (Aikman had 7 IIRC, Montana 6, Steve Young had 5)

To be RG3 at 25 years old and already had 4 concussions, by the time he is 30 he could have suffered as many as 7 or 8, really putting his long-term health into question..
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Many people have pointed out that RG3 seems like the kind of person who would "find a way' to fail the tests and or otherwise look injured / not well so that he can guarantee his 17 million for next year.
What people? Or do you mean people in this thread?

Nothing I've read or heard about Griffin strikes me that he is the type of person to fail the concussion test on purpose. (if that's even possible as Matty suggested it wasn't)

Fletcher, who recently spoke with Griffin said that even though he [Fletcher] would want out Griffin's situation that Griffin wants to stay and win in Washington.

But sure, why not say that Griffin is failing on purpose. It fits in perfectly with this thread.
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Old 09-10-2015, 08:06 PM   #12
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Many people have pointed out that RG3 seems like the kind of person who would "find a way' to fail the tests and or otherwise look injured / not well so that he can guarantee his 17 million for next year.

However - it might be that he is actually dealing with brain issues / injury. Someone on here posted a link to an excellent article that detailed every one of RG3's sports injuries since college and the NFL, and he has had 4 concussions since college, counting the one against Detroit. That is a lot, and he is getting close to the number that has had some pro QB's call it quits after a long career. (Aikman had 7 IIRC, Montana 6, Steve Young had 5)

To be RG3 at 25 years old and already had 4 concussions, by the time he is 30 he could have suffered as many as 7 or 8, really putting his long-term health into question..
I don't want to downplay concussions and head injuries. I had a head injury myself at 13 that has followed me through my adult life. Having multiple concussions is no joke and is something that truly deserves more understanding by the League and it's members. That said, I have heard of players (college, not pro) purposely doing slightly worse on their initial baseline tests so if they have a concussion they can be cleared quicker to play again.

To your point, I actually think most players have had more concussions than they even realize. Guys like Wes Welker are literally putting their future at risk every time they step on a field.
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