Cousins to start 2015 Season

[kingj]

Originally Posted by Bucket

You guys giving up on Gruden but bash Snyder for his lack of patience in the same paragraph make me wanna bash my face against my desk.



Gruden is year 2 of his contract. Him and Scot seem to be on the same page with everything and now he's going to be playing a QB that can maybe function in his offense. Not a project who limits the offense and under values are threats at WR/TE.



I just don't get it. We can't even make it to 17 games for a Head Coach before wanting him pushed out of town. I need to remind people that we hired a WCO head coach and our starting QB had never run that offense in the NFL.



Patience. For fuck sakes patience. He was a rookie HC last year as well. He's already made strides talking to the media. Let's see if he has made strides during game day before asking him to "leave with RG3"



/facepalm

Gruden put his hands in the air and made it clear he couldn't work with rg3. The top coaches can work with anyone.

So now, good ole honest jay got his way. He has the qb for his "system." So put up or shut up time for JG.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by kingj

The top coaches can work with anyone.

I can't tell if you're serious.

His record with Tom Brady is a little different than his record with "anyone":

Bill Belichick or Tom Brady: Who Deserves More Credit for the Patriots' Success? | Bleacher Report

Footnote: I'm just citing the win/loss record, not the Bleacher Report Analysis.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I can't tell if you're serious.



His record with Tom Brady is a little different than his record with "anyone":



Bill Belichick or Tom Brady: Who Deserves More Credit for the Patriots' Success? | Bleacher Report



Footnote: I'm just citing the win/loss record, not the Bleacher Report Analysis.

You are comparing Gruden to belichik?!

Come on now, look at all the well known coaches. Parcells, shanarat, Reid, Gibbs and so on.

They are able to use the personnel they have. Skins fans of all fans should know what a great coach does, look what Gibbs won with!!

Fact of the matter is Gruden is stubborn about what he thinks works, ok so now prove it.

Shanarat, one of the biggest egomaniacs, adjusted and made it work.

Reid has made the playoffs with captain check down at QB and should have beat the colts too.

Gruden is a terrible coach until he proves otherwise and to be as stubborn as he is about his "system" makes it even more amazing to witness.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by kingj

You are comparing Gruden to belichik?!

Come on now, look at all the well known coaches. Parcells, shanarat, Reid, Gibbs and so on.

They are able to use the personnel they have. Skins fans of all fans should know what a great coach does, look what Gibbs won with!!

Fact of the matter is Gruden is stubborn about what he thinks works, ok so now prove it.

Shanarat, one of the biggest egomaniacs, adjusted and made it work.

Reid has made the playoffs with captain check down at QB and should have beat the colts too.

Gruden is a terrible coach until he proves otherwise and to be as stubborn as he is about his "system" makes it even more amazing to witness.

No. I was giving you an example of a "great" coach who has been a dead dog loser without a hall of fame QB taking the snaps.

You are underrating McNabb in his prime. Parcells had Simms, Bledsoe, Romo. Shanahan had Elway. Which Gibbs' QBs were bad?

Almost all of the QBs that played for those coaches were pro-bowlers minus Doug Williams.

Gruden's system last year was a west coast offense style system which is supposed to cover up a poor offensive line. It has been used for decades. It's not this crazy complicated scheme.

It does however require a QB that can throw a three step drop after three steps to a guy with the same color jersey.

Last year he didn't have that.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by kingj

Gruden put his hands in the air and made it clear he couldn't work with rg3. The top coaches can work with anyone.

So now, good ole honest jay got his way. He has the qb for his "system." So put up or shut up time for JG.

I can see how there is potential for Dan to be impatient with J based on J's own impatience with Griffin.

J's decision to make this Kirk's team ends Griffin's development.

Griffin was this franchise's most valuable and talented assest upon J's arrival. I would bet that ending that development after 9 games/7 starts effectively removes the window J would have been granted for 'development'.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by kingj

Gruden put his hands in the air and made it clear he couldn't work with rg3. The top coaches can work with anyone.

So now, good ole honest jay got his way. He has the qb for his "system." So put up or shut up time for JG.

This cannot be the most stupid thing I have heard, but at the moment, nothing else comes to mind..........

[kingj]

Originally Posted by Hog1

This cannot be the most stupid thing I have heard, but at the moment, nothing else comes to mind..........

Believe what you want, but it's not like successful coaches or individuals luck into a reputation. Doesn't matter the sport or industry. Maybe right place and right time once, but multiple times? That's not a coincidence.

That's a pretty ignorant comment you just made, in my mind.

Anyway re: JG, it's really getting old. I'm just as tired of his act as I am of RG3's act. Last chance this season to prove he's a competent head coach, IMO.

[CRedskinsRule]

Nevermind

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Hog1

This cannot be the most stupid thing I have heard, but at the moment, nothing else comes to mind..........

Have you heard the one about risking 16 mil cap space next year on a scout team free safety?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Have you heard the one about risking 16 mil cap space next year on a scout team free safety?

Are they really going to try and convert RG3 to a safety?

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Are they really going to try and convert RG3 to a safety?

No... Given the limited players that teams have, its not exactly unheard of for the #3 QB to do that. Its just most #3's dont have a 16 mil option for next year and gimpy knees. RG3 tries to plant and change directions and pops his ACL again, that 16 mil is now guaranteed. Thats why it is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Are they really going to try and convert RG3 to a safety?

3rd string QB often lines up as scout team safety. Much ado about nothing really

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

3rd string QB often lines up as scout team safety. Much ado about nothing really

any Smoot Smackdown for the game?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

any Smoot Smackdown for the game?

I've retired

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

3rd string QB often lines up as scout team safety. Much ado about nothing really

It just seems very risky and dangerous. Imagine RG3 cutting real quick to change directions to try and cover a receiver, and he blows out his knee again, or worse. Have no idea why a guy who is an injury concern would even be placed in that situation...