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Old 09-13-2015, 08:06 PM   #1
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Gotta say Im happy with the trench play today..Well done by both sides; exceeded expectations.

It just feels like a punch to the balls when our special teams continue to struggle. And the penalties...gosh I just felt like we shoulda won that game.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:18 PM   #2
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Good: Line play both sides of the ball, Alfmo, general toughness shown by team, JG's commitment to the run.

Bad: DB's still getting burned, JG's commitment to the run.

Ugly: Special Teams, penalties.
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Good: Line play both sides of the ball, Alfmo, general toughness shown by team, JG's commitment to the run.

Bad: DB's still getting burned, JG's commitment to the run.

Ugly: Special Teams, penalties.
I have zero hopes in the special teams players. I can't figure out if it's coaching or personnel. All I know is, they've been terrible for years.
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I thought it was a little heartbreaking the way it ended. I hadn't felt like that about a Redskins loss in a while; mainly because I've been checked out on this team for a while. I want Cousins to do well. I really do. I just hear a bunch of people on the Post game show bashing him.

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I thought it was a little heartbreaking the way it ended. I hadn't felt like that about a Redskins loss in a while; mainly because I've been checked out on this team for a while. I want Cousins to do well. I really do. I just hear a bunch of people on the Post game show bashing him.

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I cannot take anyone seriously who trashes Cousins for this one. He looked really good out there for someone who had only started a handful of games and who last season, when he did start, threw a bevy of interceptions.

The first interception sucked because Grimes read him all the way, but the second interception was 50/50 as Garcon did a pretty poor job of going up and catching/breaking up the pass. He didn't turn into a turnover machine. That by itself is a plus.

Roberts was invisible until the 3rd/4th quarter... Outside of Reed and Garcon, KC really had no one to throw to.

Give that guy more than one or two weapons to throw to (and a coach who knows how to call a competitive game) and the Fins would've been blown out.
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In regards to the play calls, 2 stood out. The decision to not go for it on 4 and one b4 the missed field goal and the Kirk bad int where we ran 4 wide up against our end zone on 3rd and 18. I thought the back to back runs on third and longs was ok, but if ur gonna do that then take a shot down the field on like a 1st down when pass the 50 yard line...keep the defense a little more off balanced
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There was more than just a couple of plays that made no sense. We ran the ball down there throat in that first drive. Then he tries to pass on a first down and its an 8 yard sack. Then he just gives up on the drive in the next two plays for the FG. The next drive we move the ball, but on 3rd and 3, he tries a power run off tackle with Thompson. I dont criticize the run call, what I criticize is a power run with Thompson when we have Alfred and Jones. Get Thompson outside or run a draw with him. I dont really fault him for going for that second FG.

We get that crazy fumble that we gain possession of in Miami territory. We get a weird drop back pass to the FB where Young had to break a tackle just to get back to the line of scrimmage followed by a WR screen with no one blocking. Just throw it to the WR at the line of scrimmage while he is covered. There were others as well, just those are the ones that stick out to me. There were times we were moving the ball and he went away from what was working and it stalled drives.
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There was more than just a couple of plays that made no sense. We ran the ball down there throat in that first drive. Then he tries to pass on a first down and its an 8 yard sack. Then he just gives up on the drive in the next two plays for the FG. The next drive we move the ball, but on 3rd and 3, he tries a power run off tackle with Thompson. I dont criticize the run call, what I criticize is a power run with Thompson when we have Alfred and Jones. Get Thompson outside or run a draw with him. I dont really fault him for going for that second FG.

We get that crazy fumble that we gain possession of in Miami territory. We get a weird drop back pass to the FB where Young had to break a tackle just to get back to the line of scrimmage followed by a WR screen with no one blocking. Just throw it to the WR at the line of scrimmage while he is covered. There were others as well, just those are the ones that stick out to me. There were times we were moving the ball and he went away from what was working and it stalled drives.
When Kirk made the weird pass to Young, he was running backwards as fast as he could because two Miami players were chasing him. It looked as if they beat the protection quicker than anticipated.

They really started keying the run after the half by bringing another defender in the box.

When Kirk started connecting they seemed to play more honest.

A lot of the play calling was based on the defensive looks they were giving.

Their defensive strategy wasn't static throughout the game.
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When Kirk made the weird pass to Young, he was running backwards as fast as he could because two Miami players were chasing him. It looked as if they beat the protection quicker than anticipated.

They really started keying the run after the half by bringing another defender in the box.

When Kirk started connecting they seemed to play more honest.

A lot of the play calling was based on the defensive looks they were giving.

Their defensive strategy wasn't static throughout the game.
Of course they started keying the run, we ran it down their throats. But thats what I talk about when I talk about no halftime adjustments. That has to be predicted. I knew that would happen and I dont have a job in football so someone making 5 mil a year as a career football guy has to anticipate that.

A lot of the play calling was not based on the defensive looks they were giving, they were based on the defensive looks that they gave earlier in the game. No anticipation on what the defense might do. Once the dolphins started adjusting, we were lost.
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There was more than just a couple of plays that made no sense. We ran the ball down there throat in that first drive. Then he tries to pass on a first down and its an 8 yard sack. Then he just gives up on the drive in the next two plays for the FG. The next drive we move the ball, but on 3rd and 3, he tries a power run off tackle with Thompson. I dont criticize the run call, what I criticize is a power run with Thompson when we have Alfred and Jones. Get Thompson outside or run a draw with him. I dont really fault him for going for that second FG.

We get that crazy fumble that we gain possession of in Miami territory. We get a weird drop back pass to the FB where Young had to break a tackle just to get back to the line of scrimmage followed by a WR screen with no one blocking. Just throw it to the WR at the line of scrimmage while he is covered. There were others as well, just those are the ones that stick out to me. There were times we were moving the ball and he went away from what was working and it stalled drives.
Most of the drives that stalled seemed more due to penalties than play calling. There are not nearly as many plays to call for 3rd and 29 as there are for 3rd and 4

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Most of the drives that stalled seemed more due to penalties than play calling. There are not nearly as many plays to call for 3rd and 29 as there are for 3rd and 4

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I dont recall saying every drive that stalled was due to that. I listed ones that I thought were though. Which is why I said "There were times..."
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Really continually disappointed with Andre Roberts. All he does is drop passes. Yeah he made a couple of plays but he is so unreliable.

I'm ready to see him take a back seat to some of the young bucks.

Wasn't terribly disappointed with the overall game. Tons of missed opportunities though.
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In regards to the play calls, 2 stood out. The decision to not go for it on 4 and one b4 the missed field goal and the Kirk bad int where we ran 4 wide up against our end zone on 3rd and 18. I thought the back to back runs on third and longs was ok, but if ur gonna do that then take a shot down the field on like a 1st down when pass the 50 yard line...keep the defense a little more off balanced
Not to nitpick, but. . .

My heart always wants to go for it but my head says we can't pass up points against a stout defense.

I can see the argument either way, but it wasn't a bad coaching decision to go for what should have been 3 points.

Kirk should have never thrown the ball on the first interception. It was covered. He was out of the pocket so he could have sailed it out of bounds or thrown it at their feet.

I don't fault the play call, I fault Kirk's decision to throw that one. It's 3rd and 18. Hard to call a play to pick up the first without putting the ball at risk through an interception from pressure, or a sack fumble.

So on play called on the 1st interception, was it the actual play call or the execution you find fault with?
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Not to nitpick, but. . .

My heart always wants to go for it but my head says we can't pass up points against a stout defense.

I can see the argument either way, but it wasn't a bad coaching decision to go for what should have been 3 points.

Kirk should have never thrown the ball on the first interception. It was covered. He was out of the pocket so he could have sailed it out of bounds or thrown it at their feet.

I don't fault the play call, I fault Kirk's decision to throw that one. It's 3rd and 18. Hard to call a play to pick up the first without putting the ball at risk through an interception from pressure, or a sack fumble.

So on play called on the 1st interception, was it the actual play call or the execution you find fault with?
It was an aggressive playcall in an area of the field u can't make a mistake in...and on the other hand we went way conservative on their side of the field where being aggressive against the defense is more the status quo.

U could have thrown the ball but with a safer call...WR/rb screen, maybe a wheel route with the rb (by the way I thought we wanted to throw more to the rb?), maybe a boot, Etc...
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It was an aggressive playcall in an area of the field u can't make a mistake in...and on the other hand we went way conservative on their side of the field where being aggressive against the defense is more the status quo.

U could have thrown the ball but with a safer call...WR/rb screen, maybe a wheel route with the rb (by the way I thought we wanted to throw more to the rb?), maybe a boot, Etc...
You put the interception more on Jay or whoever called the play than Kirk?

He was rolling away from pressure, not sure if it was by design, and could survey the field, and threw it anyway.
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