The Gud, the bad and the Great. Rams Post game reactions

[kingj]

I'm really happy about the compete level and culture moving in right direction. Being tough to play against is the first step back into relevancy. The past couple years have been embarrassing with how easy skins were to play against

[Chico23231]

Pulse check of the NFC East in my office:

1. Skins Fans: happy, smiling

2. Cowboys Fans: quietly confident, but not talking smack with Romo down

3. Eagle Fan: we got one and she is playing dumb..like what happened, I didnt know about Chip...whatever...is bs

4. Giants Fans: Amazingly arrogant at 0-2. Laughing about the skins, saying this Thursday night is an automatic W. One told me Skins shouldnt show up, just forfeit.

WTF...really Giants fan

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Pulse check of the NFC East in my office:

1. Skins Fans: happy, smiling

2. Cowboys Fans: quietly confident, but not talking smack with Romo down

3. Eagle Fan: we got one and she is playing dumb..like what happened, I didnt know about Chip...whatever...is bs

4. Giants Fans: Amazingly arrogant at 0-2. Laughing about the skins, saying this Thursday night is an automatic W. One told me Skins shouldnt show up, just forfeit.

WTF...really Giants fan

Love it!
Post it in the locker room...........

[warriorzpath]

Dare I say - the Redskins' style of play this season reminds me of Gibbs's first stint. Back then, I couldn't appreciate it and wished for something more flashy - now I love it. If it continues, they'll be competitive in every game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Knighton was a steal, taken from Twitter

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen 41m41 minutes ago
The Terrance Knighton effect on display. Perry Riley running free to blow up a 3rd&2 as Knighton gets double-teamed.

[CRedskinsRule]

Twitter again:

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen 30m30 minutes ago
This was a Matt Jones 25-yard run. He wasn't touched until he'd gained 15. Look at blocks being held as he gets edge.

[30gut]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...te-rough-loss/

profootball focus: Redskins-Rams

— QB Kirk Cousins (+0.9) did what he needed to do to win this game, but not much more than that. He finished with a +0.4 passing grade, throwing plenty of short throws and letting receivers do the rest. Of his 27 attempts, only five of them were thrown beyond 10 yards downfield, of which he completed two for 56 yards. Of his 203 yards, only 91 of them were in the air, the rest being gained after the catch. That percentage (44.8% YIA) was the sixth-lowest among QBs across the league this week.

— A great day for DE Jason Hatcher (+3.7) rushing the passer that doesn’t show up in the sack column due to the Rams’ strategy of quick passes. Hatcher had five QB hurries and finished with a +4.9 pass rush grade, which was the highest among either team. He struggled elsewhere however, finishing the game with no tackles and a -1.3 run defense grade.

— The Redskins did well to win the game considering the very poor play of C Kory Lichtensteiger (-10.0). He was constantly beaten when pass blocking, surrendering a sack, a QB hit and an additional hurry en route to a -4.3 pass block grade. His run blocking was arguably worse (-5.8). If you take away RB Alfred Morris’ (-2.4) 35-yard run (a zone play where Lichtensteiger received double team help), the Redskins ran the ball on either side of Lichtensteiger 10 times and gained 11 yards. The Redskins averaged 6.33 yards per carry (27 rushes for 171 yards) everywhere else in the game.

Top Performers:

DT Jason Hatcher (+3.7)
TE Jordan Reed (+2.3)
ILB Keenan Robinson (+1.9)
TE Derek Carrier (+1.9)
OLB Ryan Kerrigan (+1.5)

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...te-rough-loss/

profootball focus: Redskins-Rams

— QB Kirk Cousins (+0.9) did what he needed to do to win this game, but not much more than that. He finished with a +0.4 passing grade, throwing plenty of short throws and letting receivers do the rest. Of his 27 attempts, only five of them were thrown beyond 10 yards downfield, of which he completed two for 56 yards. Of his 203 yards, only 91 of them were in the air, the rest being gained after the catch. That percentage (44.8% YIA) was the sixth-lowest among QBs across the league this week.

— A great day for DE Jason Hatcher (+3.7) rushing the passer that doesn’t show up in the sack column due to the Rams’ strategy of quick passes. Hatcher had five QB hurries and finished with a +4.9 pass rush grade, which was the highest among either team. He struggled elsewhere however, finishing the game with no tackles and a -1.3 run defense grade.

— The Redskins did well to win the game considering the very poor play of C Kory Lichtensteiger (-10.0). He was constantly beaten when pass blocking, surrendering a sack, a QB hit and an additional hurry en route to a -4.3 pass block grade. His run blocking was arguably worse (-5.8). If you take away RB Alfred Morris’ (-2.4) 35-yard run (a zone play where Lichtensteiger received double team help), the Redskins ran the ball on either side of Lichtensteiger 10 times and gained 11 yards. The Redskins averaged 6.33 yards per carry (27 rushes for 171 yards) everywhere else in the game.

Top Performers:

DT Jason Hatcher (+3.7)
TE Jordan Reed (+2.3)
ILB Keenan Robinson (+1.9)
TE Derek Carrier (+1.9)
OLB Ryan Kerrigan (+1.5)

After listening to Cooley's film breakdown on the offense yesterday evening I put zero (0) faith in this.

He compared the grades PFF gave Trent to his own observations and said PFF was flat out wrong

He basically said if Trent played like he did against the Rams he will be in the Probowl.

He said coaches should use Trent's film from last Sunday as an example to show young tackles how to play the position.

Yet, PFF had Trent very close to 0. I believe it was a negative score but I can't remember for certain.

Audio Vault | ESPN 980

Hour 2 from 9-22-15

He did ding Corey on some pass plays but credited him with getting to the second level and making the block that sprung some of the biggest runs of the game.

If PFF is that wrong about Trent's play, then it, they, he, whatever, could be and probably is wrong about others.

I trust Cooley's analysis more than . . .

Not sure what goes in the blank there.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

After listening to Cooley's film breakdown on the offense yesterday evening I put zero (0) faith in this.

He compared the grades PFF gave Trent to his own observations and said PFF was flat out wrong

He basically said if Trent played like he did against the Rams he will be in the Probowl.

He said coaches should use Trent's film from last Sunday as an example to show young tackles how to play the position.

Yet, PFF had Trent very close to 0. I believe it was a negative score but I can't remember for certain.

Audio Vault | ESPN 980

Hour 2 from 9-22-15

He did ding Corey on some pass plays but credited him with getting to the second level and making the block that sprung some of the biggest runs of the game.

If PFF is that wrong about Trent's play, then it, they, he, whatever, could be and probably is wrong about others.

I trust Cooley's analysis more than . . .

Not sure what goes in the blank there.

PFF is pretty good with their rankings. I'm not a scout so I wouldn't know enough to agree or disagree on any specific point but at the end of last year they had the Redskins OL as a top 10 OL in the league. Given their performance in the following 2 games, I'd say they were on target. They typically look at each players performance individually. These aren't high school scouts either, they are mostly guys with NFL OL coaching experience. Not saying they are right, but I wouldn't completely dismiss them either.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

PFF is pretty good with their rankings. I'm not a scout so I wouldn't know enough to agree or disagree on any specific point but at the end of last year they had the Redskins OL as a top 10 OL in the league. Given their performance in the following 2 games, I'd say they were on target. They typically look at each players performance individually. These aren't high school scouts either, they are mostly guys with NFL OL coaching experience. Not saying they are right, but I wouldn't completely dismiss them either.

I went back last night and watched the most of the offensive snaps after listening to Cooley.

I focused on Trent. I wanted to see the pro bowl performance Cooley was talking about. I always get caught up in the game and have a hard time breaking it down without replaying it.

I'm not a football expert, just a fan, but to my untrained eye his performance looked exactly like Cooley's analysis rather than a negative to zero.

He might as well have been wearing pvc and holding a cat 'o' nine tails with metal rings. He was dominating a dude who is supposed to be a pro bowler.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

After listening to Cooley's film breakdown on the offense yesterday evening I put zero (0) faith in this.

He compared the grades PFF gave Trent to his own observations and said PFF was flat out wrong

Where is Cooley getting PFF's grade for Trent from? They didn't publish the individual grades yet; only the game reviews, which didn't include a grade for Trent.

Anyhow, PFF is used by ~19 NFL teams. Are they infallible? No; but neither is Cooley.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Where is Cooley getting PFF's grade for Trent from? They didn't publish the individual grades yet; only the game reviews, which didn't include a grade for Trent.

Anyhow, PFF is used by ~19 NFL teams. Are they infallible? No; but neither is Cooley.

^^ exactly.. not saying Cooley is wrong but those guys are pro scouts. Cooley is not. Players are notoriously bad at evaluating other players. They may have seen something else they did not like. PFF is typically high on Trent Williams.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

^^ exactly.. not saying Cooley is wrong but those guys are pro scouts. Cooley is not. Players are notoriously bad at evaluating other players. They may have seen something else they did not like. PFF is typically high on Trent Williams.

The only bits i've read about Trent on PFF is this:
"Offensive tackle Trent Williams is one of two left tackles to not allow a pressure this season."

And not directly related to the Trent convo but Cooley also lacks objectivity. He admittedly is a fan of the Redskins AND also has a friendship with McVay and working relationship with J on the coaches show. Cooley's analysis is heavily influenced by their opinions.

[53Fan]

Redskins: Matt Jones first NFL touchdown is now more impressive

[MTK]

Jones has some serious speed, more than I think anyone realized. Also shows how worthless 40 times can be.