Amerson Waived

[53Fan]

He had opportunity, unfortunately he didn't make the most out of it. Good luck and farewell.

[Chico23231]

Raiders claimed CB David Amerson off waivers from the Redskins.

Still only 23, Amerson is blessed with ideal size and speed, but was a frequent burn victim in the Redskins' secondary. There are snaps there for the taking in Oakland's beat up secondary, but there's little reason to believe Amerson will be any more effective for coach Jack Del Rio than he was in Washington.

-per Ian Rapport

[30gut]

David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.

PFF is garbage.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

PFF is garbage.

So I've heard....lol

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

PFF is garbage.

Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.

It's garbage because PFF doesn't put the time or game understanding into their analysis to give a grade that actually reflects game performance.

PFF is a bunch of guys who have every nfl player graded the day after a game and who don't know the plays called or the responsibilities of the players they're grading.

The mere fact alone that their grades are ready so quickly after the games tells me they don't put much time into their evaluation.

The perfect example to illustrate why PFF is garbage is from earlier this year when PFF gave Trent Williams a negative grade for the same game that Cooley said was the perfect example of what a left tackle should be.

Cooley went on raving about Trent from that game. He said high school and college coaches should show their players game film of Trent from the game as to how you dominate and make it look easy.

Any rating service that blows a grade of an entire game, with 40+ snaps is garbage and cannot be trusted.

Anytime there is a subjective grade, the individual grading is the single most important factor, that's why PFF isn't a metric at all.

Relying on PFF for analysis, is relying on some anonymous guy with supposed football acumen to tell you what happened in a game.

Could you get the same analysis on Reddit for free? Nobody knows, because we don't know who the analyst is.

[30gut]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

From what you wrote above it seems like you only have a very cursory and uninformed understanding of what PFF does. This might help, although your mind is probably already made up...
https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/


How We Grade

Our approach to rating is thorough, one of a kind, and goes beyond the surface of the game.



Step 1

We grade. An analyst grades every single player and every single play on a scale of -2 to +2.


Step 2

We grade again. The initial grading is reviewed by a second analyst to ensure accuracy.


Step 3

We grade a third time. The second analyst’s grading is checked by a third analyst. You can never be too careful.


Step 4

We verify. Our grades are verified by the Pro Coach Network and their 400 years of combined NFL and college coaching experience.


Step 5

Advanced Normalization: The raw grades (as seen in our Premium Stats) are normalized to better account for the situation; this ranges from where the player lined up to the drop-back depth of the quarterback, to everything in between.


Step 6

We set the grade. Convert to 1-100 scale.
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Suffice it to say that the many NFL teams that pay for their service disagree with you.

Just because Cooley (who isn't infallible either) disagrees with 1 grade from 1 game (on a player who PFF grades as one of the best LT in the league) doesn't seem like a good reason to me to consider them garbage. Maybe Cooley should call up Howard Mudd (heard of him?) who works for PFF.


Anyhow....any comment about David? Or does he still sux because PFF is garbage?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.

First, you can only make moves based on how a guy is playing for you. When Amerson was waived not a single one of us complained because he was playing like crap. To see him turn it around in Oakland is a complete surprise, but all we had to go on was that he was playing like crap for us, and we can't change an entire defensive system for one player.

Second, who has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit about how David Amerson is playing?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First, you can only make moves based on how a guy is playing for you. When Amerson was waived not a single one of us complained because he was playing like crap. To see him turn it around in Oakland is a complete surprise, but all we had to go on was that he was playing like crap for us, and we can't change an entire defensive system for one player.

Second, who has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit about how David Amerson is playing?

Truth. Who cares about ex-Redskins? They have absolutely no bearing on how good this team is.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First, you can only make moves based on how a guy is playing for you. When Amerson was waived not a single one of us complained because he was playing like crap. To see him turn it around in Oakland is a complete surprise, but all we had to go on was that he was playing like crap for us, and we can't change an entire defensive system for one player.

True, but Amerson won't be the first nor the last player to have a sophomore slump or a bad season. The question becomes whether or not the talent/ability suggest they might be able to come out of that slump and whether its worth it to give them the chance.
And since you mention it, I didn't think Amerson should have been cut.

Second, who has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit about how David Amerson is playing?

Very paradoxical.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First, you can only make moves based on how a guy is playing for you. When Amerson was waived not a single one of us complained because he was playing like crap. To see him turn it around in Oakland is a complete surprise, but all we had to go on was that he was playing like crap for us, and we can't change an entire defensive system for one player.

Second, who has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit about how David Amerson is playing?

Remember that time we let Carlos Rogers walk? He then turned around and had a career year in his 1 year deal he signed with San Fran. Directly after signing a larger contract, he went back to being utter shit that couldn't handle a pass?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Many of these guys (especially highly drafted players) have this sense of entitlement that they feel they should be handed starting jobs. The soon realize quickly their career is going to be over shortly if they don't actually play to their potential. Often times, it takes being cut for a person to get that main aspect about the NFL.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.

Did you ignore the part where they said Amerson had one of the worst seasons in 2014? Let me refresh your memory:

"Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014"

When you combine that with the fact the coaches have access to how hard he worked in practice, how he looked on film in preseason and 2 games in the regular season, it's easy to conclude why they released him. They didn't feel he was worthy of a roster spot. It's very easy to sit back after the fact and say it was a bad decision, but it was the right decision at the time. Maybe the reason he's turned it around was because the change of scenery did him good. Maybe he realized getting cut 3 weeks into a season is not a good sign for his career.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ayers-in-2015/

Blake Bortles is on the list after leading the Jags to 5-11.

Where is Kirk Cousins?

All he did was go from benched to leading the league in completion %, setting franchise records, leading 4th quarter comebacks and taking a team with a 30+ preseason power ranking to the playoffs. All with one of the crappiest running games in the league.

PFF is garbage actually.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ayers-in-2015/

Blake Bortles is on the list after leading the Jags to 5-11.

Where is Kirk Cousins?

All he did was go from benched to leading the league in completion %, setting franchise records, leading 4th quarter comebacks and taking a team with a 30+ preseason power ranking to the playoffs. All with one of the crappiest running games in the league.

PFF is garbage actually.

It's not garbage but it certainly doesn't tell the whole picture. I think it gives you an honest, technical piece where it puts the player in a box. It leaves out a lot of variables...and some intangibles. I got a subscription around thanksgiving...pretty cheap. a handful of teams that use profootball focus as a reference.