Giants Post Game Reactions

[skinsfaninok]

I'm a gruden fan and I know I'm not in the majority on this but I think he can be a good HC given the right players. If we fire him then that's just another head coach given 2 years in Washington doesn't that get old folks? U can't just keep firing guys over and over. As far as the qb position goes I'd love to just ship griffin to Tennessee for mettenburger but that's not happening so we are stuck with kirk and just have to hope he turns his career around.

[SFREDSKIN]

You can blame Cousins but there were other issues last night. Example, were was the pass rush? None!!

Redskins QB Kirk Cousins doesn't get all the blame, but he deserves his share - NFL Nation - ESPN

[Michaelt31]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm a gruden fan and I know I'm not in the majority on this but I think he can be a good HC given the right players. If we fire him then that's just another head coach given 2 years in Washington doesn't that get old folks? U can't just keep firing guys over and over. As far as the qb position goes I'd love to just ship griffin to Tennessee for mettenburger but that's not happening so we are stuck with kirk and just have to hope he turns his career around.

Gruden is a offensive coordinator, not a leader!!! Look at the top coaches, when things go bad they don't run to reporters with off the record comments. He talk to much, he don't hold everybody accountable, and he don't know how to adapt to the flo of the game!!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm a gruden fan and I know I'm not in the majority on this but I think he can be a good HC given the right players. If we fire him then that's just another head coach given 2 years in Washington doesn't that get old folks? U can't just keep firing guys over and over. As far as the qb position goes I'd love to just ship griffin to Tennessee for mettenburger but that's not happening so we are stuck with kirk and just have to hope he turns his career around.

I'm with you.

[skinsfaninok]

Just got this text lol

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just got this text lol

lolololol.... I'd give him a big fat contract.... for the WIZ! #DCRISING

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's something just to break up the whining:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-for-speeding/

[DynamiteRave]

Good: Rashad Ross is a baller. Why he isn't he further up the depth chart? It should go: Garcon, Grant, Crowder, Ross. F Andre Roberts oiled up butterfinger ass. He drops at least one catchable, crucial pass per game. Ross can't be worse than that.

It was nice to return a kick for a TD. Garbage time or not, maybe we're not completely inept on special teams.

Keenan Robinson. Dude has heart. I like him.

Bad: Cousins threw 50 passes. I get it. They're stacking the box. The pass will open up the run. But when Cousins is your QB there has to be some alternative to having him throw so much? A dude like Cousins needs to be throwing less than 30 times a game.

That Plummer nobody. I can't blame the ST as a unit because Plummer got worked by a guy half his size. Not once but twice. Way to be the biggest bitch on the team, buddy.

Alfmo. Where was he? I understand Gruden working with the hot hand. But come on, they should be getting 50/50 carries. Or at least not more than 60/40.

Breeland getting worked by OBJ. He's one of the best and Breeland was just outmatched. We desperately need a true #1 cover guy. Everyone made that sound like Culliver but where the fuck has he been?

[WillH]

This team is just still not very good. A strong ground game on Offense and Defense can keep you in and win games even with bad special teams play, but having a QB that can't make plays for you when the game is on the line, and has bad judgement is just too big a hurdle to overcome.

KC may get better, I know people have posted his numbers compared to the start of some elite QB's numbers at the same point in their career, but I think you could find many more examples of young QBs with similar stats that did not improve. For example this is how he compares with Patrick Ramsey:

G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A AY/A
Cousins 16 11 284 465 61.1 3429 20 21 79.2 7.4 6.2 6.2
Ramsey 16 12 246 463 53.1 3169 17 14 78.2 6.8 6.2 6.2

[SFREDSKIN]

Shanahan compares Cousins to Elway, is being serious | CSN Mid-Atlantic

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Shanahan compares Cousins to Elway, is being serious | CSN Mid-Atlantic

Jon beck

[SFREDSKIN]

Washington Redskins -- Fan Goes Full Red-Skinned (PHOTO) | TMZ.com

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Washington Redskins -- Fan Goes Full Red-Skinned (PHOTO) | TMZ.com

It's only a matter of time folks. Washington warriors

[Chief X_Phackter]

The running game was not working, face it the Giants are good at stopping the run, especially if that is what they have decided to do. So what do we do, just keep playing to their strength – no. The passing game (if executed better) would have worked. Kirk just did not have a great game. He was constantly throwing behind the receivers, made some bad decisions…also did some good things. You can’t put it all on his shoulders, but if he was more accurate, it likely would have been a different game. The bottom line is the Giants plan was to make Kirk beat them and he could not. However, the blocked punt, penalties, and the fumble going into the end zone were major contributors to this loss as well. Really just gotta clean up the untimely penalties, start creating our own turnovers and get better all-around execution and things will start looking up.

Oh and can we please stop calling for Colt McCoy and give Kirk a chance? He’s started all of 12 games, three this year (two of which I think he played pretty darn well). All QBs throw interceptions, some great ones threw a bunch early in their careers. Aikman, Favre, Manning to name a few all threw over 40 interceptions their first three years…Manning almost 60. You can’t bench him because he is making some mistakes, unless you REALLY think this is your year and you have a better option waiting in the wings… which clearly is not the case. Let him play, make mistakes, get better and the whole team will be better for your patience.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by WillH

This team is just still not very good. A strong ground game on Offense and Defense can keep you in and win games even with bad special teams play, but having a QB that can't make plays for you when the game is on the line, and has bad judgement is just too big a hurdle to overcome.

KC may get better, I know people have posted his numbers compared to the start of some elite QB's numbers at the same point in their career, but I think you could find many more examples of young QBs with similar stats that did not improve. For example this is how he compares with Patrick Ramsey:

G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A AY/A
Cousins 16 11 284 465 61.1 3429 20 21 79.2 7.4 6.2 6.2
Ramsey 16 12 246 463 53.1 3169 17 14 78.2 6.8 6.2 6.2

I accidentally posted before making my point.

It is too early to say which way he will go, but to me just watching the games, he looks more like a young Ramsey than a young Manning. I will be rooting for him, but realistically this team needs to be a lot better before we can win consistently with him at QB.

One other thing, everyone says all you need is a 'game manager' I only buy that if you have a great all around Defense, otherwise you also need someone who can make plays for you.

All in all, Kirk is alright I guess, and we need to focus on building depth on the lines and in the secondary, but if SM spots a steal on a QB with even a little more playmaking ability, I think it would make a big difference to this team to grab him.