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Originally Posted by Skinzman

But this is what I am talking about. As the play caller, you cant just chalk it up to the game plan wasnt working tonight, Oh well. He needs to try something to get the team going. Would we have won the game doing something else? I have no clue. We may have still lost and looked bad. But you dont just give up because the norm isnt working. This isnt about "trying to pass". Its about giving up on the run and going pass happy when your not elite QB was having an off night.



Its not always what the defense gives you. Sometimes you just have to go out there and try to take it. This is the NFL after all.

When you say "doing something else "I can only imagine u mean run more? He tried throwing plenty of screens. They did not work. He went deep. It did not work. He tried three different running backs. The run was not working. We have to leave the fourth quarter alone because he had no choice. Someone mentioned a three tight end set to help run the ball. Do we have any tight ends on our team that can block? That formation is not an automatic slam dunk run and move the sticks magic trick. Especially when they cannot block.
For the first three quarters we were tantalizingly close to moving the chains through the air. However we were not going anywhere on the ground. So I suppose Gruden could have said you know what KC stinks tonite. We are going to keep running into a brick wall. That neither moves the chains nor does it give your qb (really the one u r stuck with, because forget about Colt effing Mccoy) any confidence going forward. He pinned his hopes on the fact that KC was going to get better, instead of pinning them on the fact that our run game was going to suddenly be effective. As the game moved forward it became more urgent to throw.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by punch it in

When you say "doing something else "I can only imagine u mean run more? He tried throwing plenty of screens. They did not work. He went deep. It did not work. He tried three different running backs. The run was not working. We have to leave the fourth quarter alone because he had no choice. Someone mentioned a three tight end set to help run the ball. Do we have any tight ends on our team that can block? That formation is not an automatic slam dunk run and move the sticks magic trick. Especially when they cannot block.
For the first three quarters we were tantalizingly close to moving the chains through the air. However we were not going anywhere on the ground. So I suppose Gruden could have said you know what KC stinks tonite. We are going to keep running into a brick wall. That neither moves the chains nor does it give your qb (really the one u r stuck with, because forget about Colt effing Mccoy) any confidence going forward. He pinned his hopes on the fact that KC was going to get better, instead of pinning them on the fact that our run game was going to suddenly be effective. As the game moved forward it became more urgent to throw.

Yet the 3 TE set worked against 9 in the box against the rams. Yes, I expect the play callers to try it all if the game plan isnt working. I also explained how it helps but you want to ignore that, acting that the Giants wouldnt have widened out when they would have. Widening the Giants defense had a better chance than leaving 8 tackle to tackle and running Morris outside and Jones inside, which should have been switched anyways. You just assume this stuff wont work because it doesnt fit your narrative. Yes, I want them to try. If it doesnt work, then they cant be blamed. But they didnt try, so therefore Jay holds some responsibility.

Just throwing your hands in the air and saying oh well and saying that its not worth trying is something that I dont want the play callers to do. Fans can do that, play callers cannot.

Also "tantalizingly close to moving the chains" is just an overly dramatic way of saying it wasnt working.

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Originally Posted by Skinzman

Also "tantalizingly close to moving the chains" is just an overly dramatic way of saying it wasnt working.

So there is no difference between a QB with all the time in the world who is missing several wide open receivers down field, and one who has no time and nobody open? Id say the first example is extremely......tantalizingly close.