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Old 09-29-2015, 11:21 AM   #1
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something is going on there. there algorythm thingy must be flawed in some way. too many head scratching grades this season.
Again, PFF looks at each play and grades the player based on his ability and the decision he makes. It takes out the effect of the other players and focuses solely on what that specific player did in that specific opportunity.
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Again, PFF looks at each play and grades the player based on his ability and the decision he makes. It takes out the effect of the other players and focuses solely on what that specific player did in that specific opportunity.
Which makes their grades worthless when it comes to quarterbacks. I don't care how the stats came out for Rodgers in that game, analysts are supposed to be more than just input/output devices. Any so-called analyst who can give Rodgers a poor grade for his performance last night forgot to do a reality check. His performance was masterful. The analyst should have used his judgement to adjust his grade upwards or simply admitted that their system doesn't work well for QB's and declined to grade him. Here's my grade: HOF.
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Which makes their grades worthless when it comes to quarterbacks. I don't care how the stats came out for Rodgers in that game, analysts are supposed to be more than just input/output devices. Any so-called analyst who can give Rodgers a poor grade for his performance last night forgot to do a reality check. His performance was masterful. The analyst should have used his judgement to adjust his grade upwards or simply admitted that their system doesn't work well for QB's and declined to grade him. Here's my grade: HOF.
He'll be in the HOF but that doesn't mean that he doesn't make mistakes and it doesn't mean that every TD he throws is 98% because of his ability. There are 11 guys on that offense at any given time and they are performing well. What PFF is saying with that grading is that most QB's in the league would've had success last night. He did not contribute anything more than a typical quarterback is expected to do in those situations. I'm not saying I fully agree but I'm also not sitting here for 4 hours a day doing film study..
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He'll be in the HOF but that doesn't mean that he doesn't make mistakes and it doesn't mean that every TD he throws is 98% because of his ability. There are 11 guys on that offense at any given time and they are performing well. What PFF is saying with that grading is that most QB's in the league would've had success last night. He did not contribute anything more than a typical quarterback is expected to do in those situations. I'm not saying I fully agree but I'm also not sitting here for 4 hours a day doing film study..
Aaron is one of my favorite QBs in the league. I think many people don't get or for whatever reason don't like PFF's stats. I used to be a subscriber, since they went 'big time' some of the old content is now exclusive for NFL teams only, but they do very good work. Its not perfect by any means but imho they have the most accurate/valuable stats/metrics out there.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:28 PM   #5
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PFF grading system is an objective input/output device. That is why it can be trusted. That is why many NFL teams subscribe to it. PFF isn't "analyzing" Rodger's play with their grade. They are offering an objective tool that rates all QBs. Altering their grade because of something external to the on the field production would make them less objective, less valuable.
Rodgers or any QB that throws a hitch for a TD where the WR did the brunt of the scoring/playmaking isn't going to receive a grade as high as a QB that threaded the needle and located a pass to a spot where only his WR could make a touchdown catch. That is the beauty of PFF grading system.

They are not saying by any means that Rodger's didn't play well.
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