Looking ahead to the Eagles

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

And I think they will be. They were against the Giants. We're just short on talent right now. I'd probably expect Philly to win a close game.

they werent prepared against the Giants. not at all

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

they werent prepared against the Giants. not at all

bad breaks, bounces and penalties just killed any rhythm imo.

of course, luck and good bounces take a lot of practice.

the penalties are starting to really piss me off.

playing the what if game for the 1st quarter:

- what if reed wasnt called for PI on that 3rd and 2 on our first drive and the 20 plus yard pass to thompson stood?

- what if we didnt have that off setting penalty on that first punt attempt where jennings was called for contacting the punter, forcing us to replay down and then jennings does block the punt?


imo, its hard to take too much from the Giants game other than:

- cousins was uncharacteristically inaccurate
- jones may have a ball security problem
- ross may be our answer our return man

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

they werent prepared against the Giants. not at all

Yup and/or their plan was flawed.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Yup and/or their plan was flawed.

I think the PLAYERS were flawed. Not the plan.

To me it looked like their guys made plays and ours didn't. Bleeland was in position to make a play but didn't. Their wr's were better and beat him twice for TD's.

Their RB bull rushed our rb and blocked the punt. He was in position to block the guy, but didn't/couldn't cause their guy was better.

Manning didn't turn the ball over, KC did, twice. Plus KC missed a couple of TD's. KC was ready to play, no one prepares more than he does, but at this stage Eli is just better. He didn't miss his TD opportunities, KC did.

Where was Kerrigan and Hatcher? No sacks or pressures.

We could not run the ball cause their linemen were pushing ours around in the run game.

None of their Rb's fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

I think we'll see more of the same Sunday. Close game but do we have enough playmakers on the field to win the game???

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think the PLAYERS were flawed. Not the plan.

To me it looked like their guys made plays and ours didn't. Bleeland was in position to make a play but didn't. Their wr's were better and beat him twice for TD's.

Their RB bull rushed our rb and blocked the punt. He was in position to block the guy, but didn't/couldn't cause their guy was better.

Manning didn't turn the ball over, KC did, twice. Plus KC missed a couple of TD's. KC was ready to play, no one prepares more than he does, but at this stage Eli is just better. He didn't miss his TD opportunities, KC did.

Where was Kerrigan and Hatcher? No sacks or pressures.

We could not run the ball cause their linemen were pushing ours around in the run game.

None of their Rb's fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

I think we'll see more of the same Sunday. Close game but do we have enough playmakers on the field to win the game???

If it was just a matter of players, there would be no need for coaches. Scheming/game plan matters, its not just players. We have shown when we power run, we can. But when we are running the ball with a TE built for catching and not blocking being responsible for a DE on the attack side, thats a scheme error.

Players certainly deserve their share of the blame, but to say it was just the players fault is to claim the NFL game is as standard as pop warner, and thats just plain wrong.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

If it was just a matter of players, there would be no need for coaches. Scheming/game plan matters, its not just players. We have shown when we power run, we can. But when we are running the ball with a TE built for catching and not blocking being responsible for a DE on the attack side, thats a scheme error.

Players certainly deserve their share of the blame, but to say it was just the players fault is to claim the NFL game is as standard as pop warner, and thats just plain wrong.

I agree, I just didn't see instances where we were getting out coached. There have been instances in the past but just didn't see that against the Giants.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I agree, I just didn't see instances where we were getting out coached. There have been instances in the past but just didn't see that against the Giants.

I have a question for you then (actually a few)...do you think there is someone on the roster that can provide better punt protection then Plummer? Whose responsiblity is it to ensure that the better player was on the field?

Is there a better POA blocking TE then Carrier? Whose responsiblity is it to make sure that McCoy is in the game blocking POA?

Whose job is to recognize that our TEs (other then McCoy) can be effective in combo or double team blocks but not singled up vs a DE?

Whose job is to recognize that Roberts has the drops and not count on him in key spots?

Whose decision is it attack via the pass vs diverse run game with 2-3 TEs?

Whose decision is it not to play Rashard Ross?

Whose decision is to not double ODB?

I can go on...and drill down further into the myriad of coach controlled decisions that can win or lose games.

Coaches matter, scheme matters.

It's why a player succeed in one scheme and fail in another its why rueben droughns can be an 1,000 yard rusher its Alex Smith can go from a bust to solid starting QB...etc...etc...etc...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I have a question for you then (actually a few)...do you think there is someone on the roster that can provide better punt protection then Plummer? Whose responsiblity is it to ensure that the better player was on the field?

Is there a better POA blocking TE then Carrier? Whose responsiblity is it to make sure that McCoy is in the game blocking POA?

Whose job is to recognize that our TEs (other then McCoy) can be effective in combo or double team blocks but not singled up vs a DE?

Whose job is to recognize that Roberts has the drops and not count on him in key spots?

Whose decision is it attack via the pass vs diverse run game with 2-3 TEs?

Whose decision is it not to play Rashard Ross?

Whose decision is to not double ODB?

I can go on...and drill down further into the myriad of coach controlled decisions that can win or lose games.

Coaches matter, scheme matters.

It's why a player succeed in one scheme and fail in another its why rueben droughns can be an 1,000 yard rusher its Alex Smith can go from a bust to solid starting QB...etc...etc...etc...

You should put in an application for a coaching position at Redskin Park. You have all the solutions.