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Old 10-06-2005, 07:43 AM   #1
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Really what I am trying to say is this, I don't expect much out of us on offense, I am not looking at our offense as progressing, I look at what we did against Seattle, and know they are a stupid defense, that's why we scored a whopping 20 points, which I know for us is an onslaught, 2 TD's that's it, that's all we needed against Seattle, which is fine, but I want to be realistic on our chances against a real defense, and don't expect 11-15 on third down this week.

Will I be routing for them to win? Absofreakinlutly! But that doesn't mean I can't be objective as well, and I think that's the typical problem here, some of us don't want to just sit back and say we are going to just beat everyone we play, regardless if we are overmatched or not. Bottom line we can't move the ball against mediocre defenses, and so many here know we will do it against a defense as aggressive as denver's? I wouldn't be betting money on that.
I do not challenge your loyalty as a fan, nor your right to challenge any and all opinions. That is part of the fun of the board! I do challenge your implication that there is something meritorious, or innovative regarding the stance YOU take. It is an opinion, nothing more.
It is your choice to take a defeatest attitude, and call it something else if you like. There are those of us who choose not to.

I would hardly characterize Seattle as a stupid defense as the Seahawks have had a couple of good wins against decent, if not good teams. Ray Rhodes remains highly sought after defensive coach. He is considered visionary by many, and assembled the first REAL defense the skins had since the original post Gibbs apocalypse. Our offense is gaining momentum rapidly. To suggest otherwise, would be absurd. A win, or loss in Dever this weekend won't change that. I have niether read or observed anything that convinces me the SKins won't win this game. A TEST, Hell yes! A defeat, HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:57 PM   #2
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I do not challenge your loyalty as a fan, nor your right to challenge any and all opinions. That is part of the fun of the board! I do challenge your implication that there is something meritorious, or innovative regarding the stance YOU take. It is an opinion, nothing more.
It is your choice to take a defeatest attitude, and call it something else if you like. There are those of us who choose not to.

I would hardly characterize Seattle as a stupid defense as the Seahawks have had a couple of good wins against decent, if not good teams. Ray Rhodes remains highly sought after defensive coach. He is considered visionary by many, and assembled the first REAL defense the skins had since the original post Gibbs apocalypse. Our offense is gaining momentum rapidly. To suggest otherwise, would be absurd. A win, or loss in Dever this weekend won't change that. I have niether read or observed anything that convinces me the SKins won't win this game. A TEST, Hell yes! A defeat, HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget to smell the roses today!
Really what it will come down to is actions on the field, once that happens sunday you will see that I am right.

Our rapid growing offense? RAPID?????????

Ray Rhodes a VISIONAIRY? By many, Did he invent the wheel?

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hog1-Your post make no sense. However, if you think running backs and their success are tied strictly to the effectiveness of their respective lines, your wrong
Really? So what you are saying is Portis stinks? Because I do believe he has the lowest yards per carry of any legitamate starting back last year. There is no back who doesn't need good blocking, you have power backs who can run people over and get yards that way, or you can be Barry Sanders, out of which Portis is neither, the fact is a great line, or great blocking schemes can make any back look good, [see denver] bottom line no back does anything without good blocking, did you ever hear the saying it all starts up front? Why is that? It's what a back does with that good blocking that seperates him from the rest of the backs!
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:39 PM   #3
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Really what it will come down to is actions on the field, once that happens sunday you will see that I am right.

Our rapid growing offense? RAPID?????????

Ray Rhodes a VISIONAIRY? By many, Did he invent the wheel?



Really? So what you are saying is Portis stinks? Because I do believe he has the lowest yards per carry of any legitamate starting back last year. There is no back who doesn't need good blocking, you have power backs who can run people over and get yards that way, or you can be Barry Sanders, out of which Portis is neither, the fact is a great line, or great blocking schemes can make any back look good, [see denver] bottom line no back does anything without good blocking, did you ever hear the saying it all starts up front? Why is that? It's what a back does with that good blocking that seperates him from the rest of the backs!
Hmmmmmmm..................Ray Rhodes, stupid defense? SF D coach 1994 Super bowl champ, took Green Bay D to #2, Took Skins D to # 4. Is that your definition of "Stupid defense"? What does #1 D get on your scale? Moderately effective?
Maybe you could point out in what part of any of my posts I stated "Portis stinks"? My statement was, a higher level of motivation could increase his effectiveness, as it does in all competitors. Maybe you have heard the expression "getting up for a game"? Do you know what that refers to? And that is all I have to say on the matter
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:21 PM   #4
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Hmmmmmmm..................Ray Rhodes, stupid defense? SF D coach 1994 Super bowl champ, took Green Bay D to #2, Took Skins D to # 4. Is that your definition of "Stupid defense"? What does #1 D get on your scale? Moderately effective?
Maybe you could point out in what part of any of my posts I stated "Portis stinks"? My statement was, a higher level of motivation could increase his effectiveness, as it does in all competitors. Maybe you have heard the expression "getting up for a game"? Do you know what that refers to? And that is all I have to say on the matter
I agree with you Hog1.
I am not sure who the brilliant defensive analists on this sight that are putting down Ray Rhodes, nor do I care, but Ray Rhodes is ONE of the top defensive coaches in the NFL. He turned our shitty defense around in one year just like Williams did last year. Where ever he goes he improves a teams D.
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:54 PM   #5
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I agree with you Hog1.
I am not sure who the brilliant defensive analists on this sight that are putting down Ray Rhodes, nor do I care, but Ray Rhodes is ONE of the top defensive coaches in the NFL. He turned our shitty defense around in one year just like Williams did last year. Where ever he goes he improves a teams D.

How quickly do we forget, eh?
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Hmmmmmmm..................Ray Rhodes, stupid defense? SF D coach 1994 Super bowl champ, took Green Bay D to #2, Took Skins D to # 4. Is that your definition of "Stupid defense"? What does #1 D get on your scale? Moderately effective?
Maybe you could point out in what part of any of my posts I stated "Portis stinks"? My statement was, a higher level of motivation could increase his effectiveness, as it does in all competitors. Maybe you have heard the expression "getting up for a game"? Do you know what that refers to? And that is all I have to say on the matter

Nonesense, Seifert was the defensive mind in san fran, and green bay was an offensive team, he's been miserable anytime he's been the man, stats are sometimes very misleading, the fact was we couldn't stop anyone when it counted, just like last week when he couldn't stop us when it counted. I wouldn't hire Rhodes if offered to pay me to coach, and please don't make comparisons to the impact on our defense between Rhodes, and Williams, there's no comparison, NONE!
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