Skins v Jets - Positives and Negatives

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

On mike and mike this morning they brought up the Q about robert still being on the team and Golic believes he will get another chance as the starter. Wonder if that could be a possibility

No way that happens.

1. We would not risk 16 million handicap for a QB who we know isn't the future.

2. I don't even think Scot makes the call on who is Head Coach. His title is "player personnel " and if that's the case.... Allen and Snyder are the call on HC. Which means......I don't see Allen firing his buddy Gruden

[calia]

BTW, what the hell is up with our Dline. No starters injured there, but they've been horrible. Hatcher -- 9 tackles and 1 sack total over 6 games -- that isn't getting it done. Knighton (14 tackles no sacks) and Paea (7 tackles, 1 sack) -- same for you.

The only one who is playing well is Chris Baker (20 tackles, 3.5 sacks). He has only 10 fewer tackles than the other 3 combined, and more sacks! I wonder whether they get Kearse to play some more. It's been a major disappointment. And no help from the LBs yesterday either. Man, it's been awful the last few weeks.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by calia

BTW, what the hell is up with our Dline. No starters injured there, but they've been horrible. Hatcher -- 9 tackles and 1 sack total over 6 games -- that isn't getting it done. Knighton (14 tackles no sacks) and Paea (7 tackles, 1 sack) -- same for you.

The only one who is playing well is Chris Baker (20 tackles, 3.5 sacks). He has only 10 fewer tackles than the other 3 combined, and more sacks! I wonder whether they get Kearse to play some more. It's been a major disappointment. And no help from the LBs yesterday either. Man, it's been awful the last few weeks.

Yeah, so much for "Capital Punishment".

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by calia

BTW, what the hell is up with our Dline. No starters injured there, but they've been horrible. Hatcher -- 9 tackles and 1 sack total over 6 games -- that isn't getting it done. Knighton (14 tackles no sacks) and Paea (7 tackles, 1 sack) -- same for you.

The only one who is playing well is Chris Baker (20 tackles, 3.5 sacks). He has only 10 fewer tackles than the other 3 combined, and more sacks! I wonder whether they get Kearse to play some more. It's been a major disappointment. And no help from the LBs yesterday either. Man, it's been awful the last few weeks.

In a 3-4 defense, it's the LBs that are supposed to making most of the tackles. The DL clog up the lanes and tie up the OL while the LBs make the tackles. It was mention on DC radio this past monday that the DL weren't happy with the LB play this past Sunday.

Either way, something has to change. What was supposed to be our strength is now our weakness.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

In a 3-4 defense, it's the LBs that are supposed to making most of the tackles. The DL clog up the lanes and tie up the OL while the LBs make the tackles. It was mention on DC radio this past monday that the DL weren't happy with the LB play this past Sunday.

Either way, something has to change. What was supposed to be our strength is now our weakness.

I wonder if part of the issue with lack of plays from the ILBs is due to the new scheme? I haven't been watching the DL closely enough to parse out this out yet. But Haslett's scheme kept the ILB clean for the most part. Especially Keenan. The DL took the doubles up front and kept Keenan clean to run and hit.

Barry's scheme of penetration upfront could be leaving the ILBs took fight through more blocks.
When it comes to the OLB I think Ryan isn't 100% yet and we still lack that outside speed rusher. I would love to see Jeffcoat.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I wonder if part of the issue with lack of plays from the ILBs is due to the new scheme? I haven't been watching the DL closely enough to parse out this out yet. But Haslett's scheme kept the ILB clean for the most part. Especially Keenan. The DL took the doubles up front and kept Keenan clean to run and hit.

Barry's scheme of penetration upfront could be leaving the ILBs took fight through more blocks.
When it comes to the OLB I think Ryan isn't 100% yet and we still lack that outside speed rusher. I would love to see Jeffcoat.

I not so sure Barry wants Knighton and Baker trying to penetrate as much as they are trying to.

The Atlanta game in particular.

Against the Jets they did seem to try and take up blockers and not try to slip past them. Apparently Knighton wasnt too happy with the ILBs after the Jets game bc he was doing his job but Riley and Robinson werent plugging the gaps like they were supposed to. that 51 yard run by Ivory was like a benny hill show for Riley.

Week 6: Chris Ivory highlights - NFL Videos

^^ 51 yd Ivory run starts at the 0:16 second mark. How the hell do you over pursue on an inside the tackles run? incompetence is mind blowing.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Defense:

- allowed 474 yds total offense (418 last wk)
- allowed 221 yds rushing (176 last wk)
- 0 sacks
- 2 FF w fumble recovery
- 1 int
- 7/14 for 3rd down conversion

Offense:

- 225 total yds
- 34 rushing yds (51 last wk)
- 1 sack allowed
- 2 ints (both 3rd Q)
- 5/15 for 3rd down conversion

Redskins vs. Jets - Team Statistics - October 18, 2015 - ESPN
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Our game plan is to win the LOS by running the ball and stopping the run. We did neither.

Positives:

1. Breeland impact plays - he gave up a couple catches, some just good throw/catch and missed on a tackle on ivory's 50 plus run, but he is an aggressive player who tracks the ball when in the air, seems to be in the right pace at the right times and is more than willing to come up and put his head down. that tackle on ivory where he stoned him was pretty sweet.

my game ball would go to Bree.

2. Special teams starting to make some special plays. that punt block recovered for a TD is big for us and that unit. that brings 2 special teams TDs so far in 6 games. (we had 0 returns for a TD last year, i dont remember whether we blocked one and took it back or not).

3. Will Blackmon - for a guy off the street thrust into a starter role, he hasnt been that bad. not an impact player but he is doing what is asked of him it seems.

4. LeRib - no fumbled or obviously bad snaps yesterday.

5. LT-LG-C: all non-starters starting a game and didnt give up a sack. no push in the run game is a diff story. but looking at pass pro alone, job done against a top end D front.

Negatives:

1. front 7 on D - this is our healthy unit and they failed to contain the run or pressure the QB. this is a unit we have invested heavily in. DL guys are trying to shoot gaps and penetrate instead of maintaining gap integrity. But ii doesnt really matter when Riley and Robinson arent filling the gaps or just fail to make plays. on that 50 plus run by Ivory, riley somehow over pursues on a run inside the tackles and slips into robinson leaving a huge hole.

2. Run game. gruden/mcvay/callahan need to get their shit together. why cant we put an emphasis on the run and stick with it? 1st half, its 2nd and 2 from our 46. gruden/mcvay call pass = incomplete to grant. 3rd and 2 = shotgun look, incomplete pass. 1st half, maybe even 1st quarter, great opportunity to pound the ball .. and we get cute.

3. Cousins - inaccurate for weeks now. really becoming a concern. the 2 ints just cant happen. 1st one you cant go back late to grant in the flat. did kirk even see revis sitting on it? 2nd one seemed like a desperation throw ala last year's decision making.

4. play calling - the lack of sprinkling in a long ball every now and then to keep the D honest has been a huge head scratcher. then they call up 2 long balls in the 2nd half when we were down by 2 or more tds?

gruden/mcvay have done nothing since desean went out to keep Ds honest. they can just play up and shrink the field and only have to worry about defending 20 yds instead of the whole field.

i understand desean is the man at the long ball and ross seemingly isnt "ready" but .. do something. they have done nothing for weeks now to address this and wonder why the run game has been completely shut down and corners are jumping short routes.

Relax.

Bill O'Brien will be available at the end of the year.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by dyoungjelly

relax.

Bill o'brien will be available at the end of the year.

lol

[DYoungJelly]

Snap Counts: Redskins-Jets

Was Stephen Paea hurt?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Snap Counts: Redskins-Jets

Was Stephen Paea hurt?

Yes, bad back. He dressed and did not play.

[Buffalo Bob]

What is the place kicker's name? Hopkins? He had a remarkable game, deep kick offs, 54 yard FG and well placed onside kicks. The only player who had
an A+ game grade.

[rocnrik]

bottom line is We are several off seasons away from being a contender and that is IF they don't screw up in free agency and the draft..we have 10 games to find out IF we have the right head coach and IF Cousins can be the QB of the future..thats a lot of major Ifs..my gut feeling tells me the skins go after a QB in free agency and that Gruden gets one more year..

[calia]

Who would have thought that our secondary would be the strongest part of our D.


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[ethat001]

Hate to say that one player makes a difference -- but I think Desean Jackson will change the offense in the last part of the season. Right now we don't have much separation at the WR position - Garcon is good but doesn't separate, and Grant doesn't either. Roberts just can't catch. So our playmakers are Reed (out), Jax (out), and Crowder who's been trying to carry the team.

BUT D.Jax is gone next season. Too expensive, high risk older vet with 6 games for hammy making $10 million / year..


What are we going to do for WR position next year?

[sdskinsfan2001]

If, say we are 3 - 7 and Cousins hasn't improved, no one can see RG3 starting last 6 games or so? I think he might, its a weak year for qbs in the draft.