Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

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Gruden gets the year ... but be prepared for a Shanny type collapse if we don't get some more wins. Soon.

I think Shanahan lost the team through a lot of non-football things. One thing that I think I have seen is Gruden has kept this team's mentality right through all the QB drama. So I doubt we have a Shanny or Zorn collapse. I just expect us to lose because we don't have a strong enough roster. Forget the 2nd half collapses - clearly coaching problem- and lets look at the plan in the first halves. Gruden has had the team ready to play and lead at half time for 5 of the 6 games. The team plays for him, I think. He just needs to get better.

[Michaelt31]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think Shanahan lost the team through a lot of non-football things. One thing that I think I have seen is Gruden has kept this team's mentality right through all the QB drama. So I doubt we have a Shanny or Zorn collapse. I just expect us to lose because we don't have a strong enough roster. Forget the 2nd half collapses - clearly coaching problem- and lets look at the plan in the first halves. Gruden has had the team ready to play and lead at half time for 5 of the 6 games. The team plays for him, I think. He just needs to get better.

And who you think started those non football things? He was the source for all those stories! As for Jay, he was the source for the things this summer. So when the loses keep coming, he will be the source for the stories. Guys are playing hard b/c SM. What amazed me more about everyone on here was put Kirk in and this offense would be ok. Well, I guess we see he is not the answer!! Guys are still open no matter they are low draft picks, he is not delivering. Keep comparing him to Manning, Luck, or Favre! Those guys threw picks, but also thouchdowns. That Colts team was terrible, but Manning still put points up. Are defense keep us in games and this guy look lost!!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Michaelt31

And who you think started those non football things? He was the source for all those stories! As for Jay, he was the source for the things this summer. So when the loses keep coming, he will be the source for the stories. Guys are playing hard b/c SM. What amazed me more about everyone on here was put Kirk in and this offense would be ok. Well, I guess we see he is not the answer!! Guys are still open no matter they are low draft picks, he is not delivering. Keep comparing him to Manning, Luck, or Favre! Those guys threw picks, but also thouchdowns. That Colts team was terrible, but Manning still put points up. Are defense keep us in games and this guy look lost!!

My point was Shanahan was likely a source for the non-football stuff. What makes you say Jay was a source for things this summer (more specifically what proof?) JG doesn't come across as a guy who wants the non-football drama, or would start the type of stuff we see here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

My point was Shanahan was likely a source for the non-football stuff. What makes you say Jay was a source for things this summer (more specifically what proof?) JG doesn't come across as a guy who wants the non-football drama, or would start the type of stuff we see here.

Couldnt agree more. I think Gruden is all business. I think the players like him. Unfortunately I am also beginning to believe he is over his head as a HC in this league. Im so sick of "playing out the year under some sort of extended test drive but it looks like that is what we are on with him and KC. The one good thing is I have faith in SM - who is ultimately in charge of such things. The other good thing is the division is still up for grabs and the season is not a total loss. Gotta root for the birds tonite as much as i hate Chip - cant let the Gints get too far out in front. Need desperately to get some of our injured players back soon! Maybe we can beat TB without them and be healthy for the Pats.