Who is Kirk Cousins?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Osweiler has started one game against a bad defense and they were able to run the ball. He will have his struggles. Let's see who he plays against the Pats.

1st start on the road against a team that's been playing better the second half of the season in a spot that not necessarily an easy place to play...You had to be impressed. 78 QBR as well.

Look, he is on a better team...not only does he have the pressure to finally get his turn and perform, but he is responsible for maintaining a playoff run and following a legend at his position. This isn't rebuilding where you can afford to make a lot of mistakes and shrug it off ala Cousins.

Pats gonna be a test for sure, Ill be watching.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by punch it in

..... and zero run game. For a "rookie" which we can argue about all we want, he is playing quite well all things considered. Certainly worthy of another year where we give him some more help imo.

For me Kirk has to earn another year with his play down the stretch this season. Is he a good back-up, stop gap starter or quality starter? For me its too early to say but he'll get the chance to prove himself.

He's certainly not a rookie in my book, I expect better then rookie level performance. The run game"handicap" is a dual sided coin imo Jay's penchant towards creating a passing to feature Kirk comes at the expense of run game commitment/success.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by 30gut

For me Kirk has to earn another year with his play down the stretch this season. Is he a good back-up, stop gap starter or quality starter? For me its too early to say but he'll get the chance to prove himself.

He's certainly not a rookie in my book, I expect better then rookie level performance. The run game"handicap" is a dual sided coin imo Jay's penchant towards creating a passing to feature Kirk comes at the expense of run game commitment/success.

Kirk is not a rookie but he is not an experienced veteran either. He is closer to the rookie end due to sitting on the bench most of his first couple years in the league. He is showing some growing pains but that is to be expected when a QB is learning on the job, which all players do.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Bishop Hammer

He is closer to the rookie end due to sitting on the bench most of his first couple years in the league. .

To each their own.

Kirk has 4 years in the NFL and has started some games every season. Those 4 years of experience, practice, team meetings separate him from a rookie. On top of that he's had an unusual amount of organizational support for 4th round QB.

Grading Kirk on a rookie level, due to growing pains, imo isn't the correct prism to view his performance.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Bishop Hammer

Kirk is not a rookie but he is not an experienced veteran either...

So we agree.

Also, didn't think this needed to be said but I'll state it clearly here.

Saying that Kirk is not a rookie is not the same as saying he's an experienced veteran.

There is room in between its not an either/or question.

[punch it in]

Look at all the highly touted qbs that have been ruined by situations like what we have in Washington. The list goes on n on. I think KC has done quite well for himself - he certainly isnt ruined. And most young qb's wouls be.

[over the mountain]

gentlemen, there is no fighting in the war room.

cousins is neither a rookie nor a 4 year vet.

he is a guy who has started 18 games. There is no gray area there. Unless he has started 19.

[punch it in]

Thats fine. However u wanna put it. Fact is for his "limited experience " on a trainwreck of a team he is passing the test.

[rocnrik]

Punch it in…I'm with you 10000% ! Cousins despite his team is doing pretty darn well..you put him on the Pats and they win 13 games!! How many games would the skins win this year with Brady as QB?? maybe 10 tops..I hate to say this but i will be shocked if we win 9 games this year..i say more like 7-9 . but who knows I'm hoping to win out but this team has a lot of issues other than QB.

[punch it in]

Teams go from hot to cold all the time. The Jets and Falcons were hot when we played them and NO we did not make them cold....they beat us. I did not say the Giants were hot when we beat them. I simply pointed out that they are not a "bad " team. So once again, we lost to one bad team...the Fins.

[Brody81]

At least he didn't throw 3 picks against Carolina.. :-) Maybe there defense is just good..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Brody81

At least he didn't throw 3 picks against Carolina.. :-) Maybe there defense is just good..

No doubt. At least we gave em a fight for alittle while. Probably would have been a long while if not for the zebras.

[MTK]

On a timeline of development with rookie on one end and veteran on the other, I'd put him right in the middle.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

On a timeline of development with rookie on one end and veteran on the other, I'd put him right in the middle.

That may be a fair way to look at it. All of us would like to think that he has a higher ceiling.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

On a timeline of development with rookie on one end and veteran on the other, I'd put him right in the middle.

You should run for office. Lol