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Old 10-27-2015, 09:21 PM   #1
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Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?

Wait.
Wait.

I think Kirk is average so far, but....

You are a fool if you think he running game has nothing to do with evaluating the QB position. Especially when half your playbook can be eliminated and the defense you play against is a determination of the running game and how successful it is.

Carry on....
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Wait.
Wait.

I think Kirk is average so far, but....

You are a fool if you think he running game has nothing to do with evaluating the QB position. Especially when half your playbook can be eliminated and the defense you play against is a determination of the running game and how successful it is.

Carry on....
Evaluating the position in terms of functioning within the scope of the offense, I'd agree but the things he struggle with (accuracy, turnovers) have zip to do with the running game. Those are purely his ability and decision making.
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Old 10-27-2015, 09:51 PM   #3
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Evaluating the position in terms of functioning within the scope of the offense, I'd agree but the things he struggle with (accuracy, turnovers) have zip to do with the running game. Those are purely his ability and decision making.
Pretty easy to disagree with this. Considering throwing 20 times a game or 40 times is a huge variable in interceptions thrown.

It's easier for say.... Carson Palmer to make decisions on his throws when when he can throw from play action knowing defenses will bite. Or how tight the coverage is when rolling out, etc.

But anyhow.. I'll just agree to disagree because in a team game. It's difficult for me to believe the evaluation of 1 player has nothing to do with the other 10.

And this is coming from someone who played at a D1 level and fully understand its importance.
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Pretty easy to disagree with this. Considering throwing 20 times a game or 40 times is a huge variable in interceptions thrown.

It's easier for say.... Carson Palmer to make decisions on his throws when when he can throw from play action knowing defenses will bite. Or how tight the coverage is when rolling out, etc.

But anyhow.. I'll just agree to disagree because in a team game. It's difficult for me to believe the evaluation of 1 player has nothing to do with the other 10.

And this is coming from someone who played at a D1 level and fully understand its importance.
To clarify, a QB ability to make an accurate pass from a clean pocket, IMO, has nothing to do with a running game. A QB decision to throw into double coverage or stare down a receiver or bail out and throw off their back foot due to pressure has nothing to do with a running game.

Evaluating if they have the overall requisite skills to lead an offense competently and be a productive starter has everything to do with the other 10 players around him.
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