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Originally Posted by Skinzman
We are going to have to agree to disagree, however I do want to make a couple of comments about what you put. If Jones slows down and Browner stayed on point, he makes the tackle, regardless of what Long does. So to me, that part of your post is a non-issue. I dont buy that Long is a blocker for a guy that was tackled (if Jones slowed down that is). At that point, Long is an OL heading back to the huddle with 7 less points on the board..
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Dude, Long is not heading back to the huddle. He is chasing the runner to try to help. And was in position to block if something happened to slow or hold Jones up.
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Originally Posted by Skinzman
As for that last line you typed. To me, its not about clean or dirty. Its about putting yourself above the team. Its about whether the player was selfish or team oriented. The reason I bolded the last line in my post is because to me, thats the crux of the situation. I dont really care if anyone calls both hits dirty, both hits cheap, both hits clean, or one is and one isnt. That was never my point.
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Good. Now look how Taylor and his victim, and Browner and his victim, are in remarkably similar postions. Chasing close behind the runner off to the side a few yards. With neither player at the time knowing if the runner is going to get slowed or not. Yet you and others are saying that the hit the Skins player made is OK, but the hit made by the Saints player is not.
The way the Taylor play went, Taylor's victim could not have tackled Thrash. Thrash didn't even make a cut, he turned a little to the inside, a couple degrees and turned back again, not slowing his forward progress at all.
Now why I still say the Taylor hit is OK, who's to say at the time that Thrash wouldn't cut one way or the other, or get held up. But Thrash was actually tackled by the players ahead of him.
But if Jones slows, Browner goes in for the tackle, and Long blindsides him instead, I guess of course we cheer that. That situation is hypocritical, IMO.