First place Redskins

[Hog1]

Dunbar did NOT play Defense before this season?
Holy shit on a few fronts...Scott!
QD....you may have potential

[Schneed10]

Is the road issue a real issue? Or is it the product of playing better teams?

Our 5 road opponents:
W-L Record: 38-17, .690%
Defensive Yards Allowed Per Game: 349

Our 6 home opponents:
W-L Record: 26-40, .393%
Defensive Yards Allowed Per Game: 382

I think the "road issue" is a phantom problem. We're going to be playing some different teams on the road than the ones we've faced so far. The quality of the opponent has a lot more to do with it than the locale. Look at the schedule and our opponents, not at the number of road games remaining.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Is the road issue a real issue? Or is it the product of playing better teams?

Our 5 road opponents:
W-L Record: 38-17, .690%
Defensive Yards Allowed Per Game: 349

Our 6 home opponents:
W-L Record: 26-40, .393%
Defensive Yards Allowed Per Game: 382

I think the "road issue" is a phantom problem. We're going to be playing some different teams on the road than the ones we've faced so far. The quality of the opponent has a lot more to do with it than the locale. Look at the schedule and our opponents, not at the number of road games remaining.

Gruden has one road win in his tenure...sample is big enough to say this is a reasonable concern.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gruden has one road win in his tenure...sample is big enough to say this is a reasonable concern.

Wow that is bad, and tbh pretty unacceptable for a HC.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gruden has one road win in his tenure...sample is big enough to say this is a reasonable concern.

If the question is whether we can stay in first place, it's kind of stupid to lump last year into it, isn't it? Different QB situation, different GM, it makes no sense.

Last year we weren't good enough to beat anybody and has really no bearing on our likelihood to stay in first place for the rest of this season.

We've got 3 road games remaining but they're not against strong teams like our games to date have been.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If the question is whether we can stay in first place, it's kind of stupid to lump last year into it, isn't it? Different QB situation, different GM, it makes no sense.

Last year we weren't good enough to beat anybody and has really no bearing on our likelihood to stay in first place for the rest of this season.

We've got 3 road games remaining but they're not against strong teams like our games to date have been.

I don't know if it makes no sense...I think its very noticeable fact of a team which has struggled and a coaching staff which quite frankly has been under whelming. Its about message, motivation, game plan with the coaching staff and.... with Cousins its all about keeping confidence being a leader.

check the bell curve too with the Pats and Panthers record, 2 best teams in the league no question with only 1 loss...kinda skewing the W-L record.

Cousins only road win starting a game was Cleveland in 2012...

Let me spin this: We been one of the best home teams this year...and protecting home is more important than on the road.

Lets see how we finish..its about improving at this point

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I don't know if it makes no sense...I think its very noticeable fact of a team which has struggled and a coaching staff which quite frankly has been under whelming. Its about message, motivation, game plan with the coaching staff and.... with Cousins its all about keeping confidence being a leader.

check the bell curve too with the Pats and Panthers record, 2 best teams in the league no question with only 1 loss...kinda skewing the W-L record.

Cousins only road win starting a game was Cleveland in 2012...

Let me spin this: We been one of the best home teams this year...and protecting home is more important than on the road.

Lets see how we finish..its about improving at this point

OK so basically you're not saying much on topic. As usual.

This thread is not a referendum on Gruden's performance as head coach which you are wont to do, it's about first place. If you're going to talk about our ability to finish in first like we are right now, you have to look at our chances in the five games coming up, which includes the three on the road.

What I'm saying is simple. We've got a bad road record because our opponents have been New England, Carolina, New York Jets and Giants (we never play well in the Meadowlands), and Atlanta. The only one with a losing record is the Giants, and barely. Our upcoming road opponents are garbage in comparison.

The opponent is the much more meaningful factor than the location.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gruden has one road win in his tenure...sample is big enough to say this is a reasonable concern.

Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.

[SFREDSKIN]

Bring our boy home again!!

Cowboys have waived RB Trey Williams.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.

Jesus man, it's the nfl. U think going into Chicago in December gonna be a breeze? What about back to back road games against division rivals to end the year...that gonna be a cake walk? Learning to win on the road shows growth...lets take the next step., I never said we couldn't do it, we just haven't yet.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Jesus man, it's the nfl. U think going into Chicago in December gonna be a breeze? What about back to back road games against division rivals to end the year...that gonna be a cake walk? Learning to win on the road shows growth...lets take the next step., I never said we couldn't do it, we just haven't yet.

I think you misread my post. I dont think division games on the road are ever easy. I dont think chicago is going to be easy. That was my point. . As i said i dont think any of our road games this year are easy. Quite the opposite. Its been a brutal road schedule by any teams standards. So do i think it is a "concern" that Gruden has not won on the road this year? No. I think its been a tough ass road schedule.
Edit: when they start dropping games to 2-3-4 win type teams than its a concern.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.

Should have won Falcons game. Anyway maybe they make up for it with one of these road games. Imo they need 2 of 3 road games.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by kingj

Should have won Falcons game. Anyway maybe they make up for it with one of these road games. Imo they need 2 of 3 road games.

Giants going 2-3 down the stretch beating the Dolphins n Eagles and losing to Carolina, Jets, and Vikings. Puts them at 7-9.
Skins imo can win out. Bills are probably the best team we face and it is a home game. Bears on the road even is tough but certainly winnable. Dallas twice and Philly. Fuck them. Lol. Funny thing is 7-9 could easily win this division.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.

The Skins have momentum right now and confidence. 5-3 in conference and 2-1 in the division. I would say in the last five games the only game I was disappointed and felt they were outclassed in every facet was the Carolina game.

[SFREDSKIN]

I guess Fewell is the genius behind the Dunbar conversion to CB:

--Give Washington secondary coach Perry Fewell credit. He hasn't had a full deck of cards with that unit since the second day of training camp when Bashaud Breeland was both suspended one game by the NFL and sustained a knee injury. Within a week Fewell was begging coach Jay Gruden to lend him wide receiver Quinton Dunbar, an undrafted rookie with little chance of making the roster.

Well, Dunbar did make the practice squad. But as a cornerback. That's how impressive he was during camp with long arms on a 6-foot-2 frame. Sunday, he intercepted Eli Manning in the end zone to help the Redskins to a 20-14 win. Add in injuries to Chris Culliver (torn ligaments, right knee), now lost for the season, and DeAngelo Hall (plantar plate tear, right toe), and a disastrous start from former second-round pick David Amerson, and Fewell's group could have fallen apart.

Instead, veteran Will Blackmon was brought in and has provided a stabilizing presence, and young players like Dunbar and Deshazor Everett have held their own. Rookie Kyshoen Jarrett has been a jack-of-all trades bouncing between safety and nickel corner. Somehow, it's all worked.

"(Fewell is) not a big yell-at-you, in-your-face type guy. He's more of a great, fundamental teacher," Gruden said. "And when you have great teachers like that -- (defensive coordinator) Joe Barry does a good job -- it makes the transition from one position to another pretty smooth.