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Old 12-09-2015, 08:46 PM   #1
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Cousins is likely going to get 2016 to prove himself. There really isn't a better IMMEDIATE option available.

Something people have to remember is unless your QB is Brady, Manning, Brees, or Rodgers, you are largely going to be dealing with a QB who from a week to week basis can look really good, average, or mediocre. Just take a guy like Eli Manning for example, he has two rings, and has gone on stretches of games where he absolutely looks like one of the best QBs in the league, however when you look at his overall body of work there are a lot of stretches where he looks downright mediocre or at least just average.

In the NFL, you either have a Top 5 QB or you most likely will be required to build a contender around a serviceable QB. That is just a fact of the NFL. There are simply not 15-20 elite caliber QB's to go around.
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Cousins is likely going to get 2016 to prove himself. There really isn't a better IMMEDIATE option available.



Something people have to remember is unless your QB is Brady, Manning, Brees, or Rodgers, you are largely going to be dealing with a QB who from a week to week basis can look really good, average, or mediocre. Just take a guy like Eli Manning for example, he has two rings, and has gone on stretches of games where he absolutely looks like one of the best QBs in the league, however when you look at his overall body of work there are a lot of stretches where he looks downright mediocre or at least just average.



In the NFL, you either have a Top 5 QB or you most likely will be required to build a contender around a serviceable QB. That is just a fact of the NFL. There are simply not 15-20 elite caliber QB's to go around.

You are either elite or you are serviceable? No in between? No difference between say Matt Ryan and Brian Hoyer? Big Ben and say Sam Bradford? Maybe im misunderstanding what you mean by serviceable but to me serviceable means a stop gap until you get someone good.
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You are either elite or you are serviceable? No in between? No difference between say Matt Ryan and Brian Hoyer? Big Ben and say Sam Bradford? Maybe im misunderstanding what you mean by serviceable but to me serviceable means a stop gap until you get someone good.
When I say serviceable I mean that it's a QB you can win with, but perhaps not a difference-maker at the position. I don't look at Cousins as a difference maker kind of QB. He is a QB that you could probably interchange out with 8-10 other QB's in the league and the team would likely have the same results based on the team around them.

The Top 4-5 QB's in the league make their teams better. Brady for example makes no names into stars for the few seasons they are catching passes from him. These are the QB's you can't afford to lose. They make a good team great, a great team elite.

Does that help explain it a bit better?
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When I say serviceable I mean that it's a QB you can win with, but perhaps not a difference-maker at the position. I don't look at Cousins as a difference maker kind of QB. He is a QB that you could probably interchange out with 8-10 other QB's in the league and the team would likely have the same results based on the team around them.



The Top 4-5 QB's in the league make their teams better. Brady for example makes no names into stars for the few seasons they are catching passes from him. These are the QB's you can't afford to lose. They make a good team great, a great team elite.



Does that help explain it a bit better?

Who are some other qb's in the league u consider interchangeable with cousins? Im curious.
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When I say serviceable I mean that it's a QB you can win with, but perhaps not a difference-maker at the position. I don't look at Cousins as a difference maker kind of QB. He is a QB that you could probably interchange out with 8-10 other QB's in the league and the team would likely have the same results based on the team around them.

The Top 4-5 QB's in the league make their teams better. Brady for example makes no names into stars for the few seasons they are catching passes from him. These are the QB's you can't afford to lose. They make a good team great, a great team elite.

Does that help explain it a bit better?
To follow up on Punch's question, what is the average contract of the 8-10 other QBs?

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To follow up on Punch's question, what is the average contract of the 8-10 other QBs?

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Well according to those stats:
K.Cousins
DYAR Rk YAR Rk DVOA Rk VOA QBR Rk Passes Yards EYds
472 11 500 11 5.4% 14 6.4% 57.7 21 444 2,874 2,937

TD FK FL INT C% DPI
17 2 3 10 68.6% 5/80

Seems like he falls in the 10-15 range. Using Overthecap.com's qb contract numbers that would put him in the 17Mill to 19Mill /year range with a total guarantee somewhere between 25 to 35Mill guaranteed.
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