Who is Kirk Cousins?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Isn't Colt a veteran who can back up KC? And I didn't say anything about reaching for a QB. I'm just saying that keeping Cousins doesn't mean we won't get a QB.

I said "hold colt, and get a veteran to back up KC". I meant collectively. I should have been more clear and said "another veteran" though. My bad. Anyway I think anytime you draft a player, in this case a qb as you mentioned, that is not going to play anytime soon - when you have SO MANY OTHER NEEDS- it is a reach. Also it would maybe mess with KC's head. Where as if we stand pat with Colt and another veteran, KC knows he is the man. When GB took Rodgers, Favre was obviously towards the end of his career and it was a case where a really highly touted qb was inexplicably hanging around.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by punch it in

...Anyway I think anytime you draft a player, in this case a qb as you mentioned, that is not going to play anytime soon - when you have SO MANY OTHER NEEDS- it is a reach.

When do you think its okay/'not a reach' to draft a QB somewhere in the draft?

I wouldn't worry about it messing with Kirk's head. If Kirk is the QB you think he is, i'm sure he'll be fine.

...When GB took Rodgers, Favre was obviously towards the end of his career and it was a case where a really highly touted qb was inexplicably hanging around.

Scrathing my head....

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

When do you think its okay/'not a reach' to draft a QB somewhere in the draft?



I wouldn't worry about it messing with Kirk's head. If Kirk is the QB you think he is, i'm sure he'll be fine.



Scrathing my head....

What are you scratching your head about? That i think Rodgers drop in the first round was strange or that Favre was towards the end of his career? As for it messing with his head - I do believe he will be fine, but with so many other needs it isnt even worth testing the theory imo.
I think it is ok to draft a qb in the draft
A) when you dont have one who is worth a shit
B) when someone with the potential to be special falls into your lap
C) when you're qb is getting towards the end of his career
None of these, imo, apply to the Redskins in the upcoming draft.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What are you scratching your head about? That i think Rodgers drop in the first round was strange or that Favre was towards the end of his career? As for it messing with his head - I do believe he will be fine, but with so many other needs it isnt even worth testing the theory imo.
I think it is ok to draft a qb in the draft
A) when you dont have one who is worth a shit
B) when someone with the potential to be special falls into your lap
C) when you're qb is getting towards the end of his career
None of these, imo, apply to the Redskins in the upcoming draft.

Interesting. I mean I couldn't disagree more, but to each their own. I prefer the Ron Wolf/WCO approach to QBs. QBs are so valuable that you should always have at least 1 in development. And I would prefer the FO not to backed into a 'need' situation, which imo is where your plan ends up.

BTW how does a team recognize a QB w/ potential to be special? I presume all franchise believe in all the QBs/players they draft.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Interesting. I mean I couldn't disagree more, but to each their own. I prefer the Ron Wolf/WCO approach to QBs. QBs are so valuable that you should always have at least 1 in development. And I would prefer the FO not to backed into a 'need' situation, which imo is where your plan ends up.



BTW how does a team recognize a QB w/ potential to be special? I presume all franchise believe in all the QBs/players they draft.

Let me preface that if in round 6-7 there is a qb there that is someone they like than so be it. Im talking more about the first few rounds. However imo Kirk, Colt, and some kick the tires vet who is still lookin to collect a paycheck that we can get for cheap in FA is the way to go.
When i say "potential to be special" i mean if it is early on to mid draft and there is a guy our FO really really likes that they are shocked is still out there. Not just picking up a qb who is bpa because we want to experiment. We have way to many other more pressing needs rite now than qb to waste a pick on. And dont be upset when we dont draft a qb because we wont.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I prefer the Ron Wolf/WCO approach to QBs. QBs are so valuable that you should always have at least 1 in development.

FWIW, I also think it is wise to have a young QB in development at all times.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

FWIW, I also think it is wise to have a young QB in development at all times.

We do. His name is Kirk Cousins.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

We do. His name is Kirk Cousins.

Stop pulling my leg! You know Kirk has arrived. He is our starter for next season. Now we need a veteran backup and a developmental QB for 2016.

Colt is fine with me as the backup, BTW. If Jerrah had signed Colt, the Cowturds wouldn't have lost all those games without Romo.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I said "hold colt, and get a veteran to back up KC". I meant collectively. I should have been more clear and said "another veteran" though. My bad. Anyway I think anytime you draft a player, in this case a qb as you mentioned, that is not going to play anytime soon - when you have SO MANY OTHER NEEDS- it is a reach. Also it would maybe mess with KC's head. Where as if we stand pat with Colt and another veteran, KC knows he is the man. When GB took Rodgers, Favre was obviously towards the end of his career and it was a case where a really highly touted qb was inexplicably hanging around.

Personally, I think it is unwise to depend solely on a QB who has been pretty much up and down, even in this year which is so far his best. Drafting a QB in the next two years should not be out of the question IMO. Other than Trent and Kerrigan, I don't think there is anyone else on this roster who is locked in at their position.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Personally, I think it is unwise to depend solely on a QB who has been pretty much up and down, even in this year which is so far his best. Drafting a QB in the next two years should not be out of the question IMO. Other than Trent and Kerrigan, I don't think there is anyone else on this roster who is locked in at their position.

Up and down? I haven't seen any "down" performances by the Qb in a while. KC has been solid in his first year starting. Great? No. But he has stabilized the position. Drafting a QB early is not the way to go. Get some better players around him, get a 6'4 stud wr, let's get another TE that can actually block and not hold and get PI's. Get a center and maybe another guard that can play right away.

This is how you get better, this is how your offense gets better. And some better playcalling wouldn't hurt either.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Up and down? I haven't seen any "down" performances by the Qb in a while. KC has been solid in his first year starting. Great? No. But he has stabilized the position. Drafting a QB early is not the way to go. Get some better players around him, get a 6'4 stud wr, let's get another TE that can actually block and not hold and get PI's. Get a center and maybe another guard that can play right away.

This is how you get better, this is how your offense gets better. And some better playcalling wouldn't hurt either.

I'm all for Cousins and yes, he's been more up than down. I'm not taking a side on the Cousins' lovers/Cousins' haters feud; just squarely in the middle that we should keep Cousins and he is the better option for QB of the future; yet keeping him doesn't mean that one or two years down the road this team is not going to keep a QB.

Especially in the first three rounds, there are a lots of needs that I think this team could address in the next two drafts. But if Scot sees some QB he wants to pick up sometime in the next two years, I'm okay with it.