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Old 10-10-2005, 01:21 AM   #1
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Re: Wow Those Linebackers played so well Today

Wow. We go into mile-high, where no road teams win, and almost pull it out. Our D missed two big plays. That sucks. It's disappointing. But we had a shot, and if we don't get robbed on the safety, we're kicking a PAT for the win. So, yeah, those long runs were disturbing, but overall, the D played well, without either starting corner.

If this is how WIlliams wants the D, then I am ok with it. Lavar is not a magic bullet. What's more important is the TEAM--you do it in practice, and you get to play on Sunday. DOesn't matter what number is on the back of your uniform. I love Lavar. But I respect our coaching staff--if this is their decision, I'm behind it.

But come on, this was a tough road game. We almost pulled it out. Why not just stick with what we've got, and keep working hard? This "let's change this, let's change that" tactic isn't always the solution. SOmetimes you take a loss, you pick your head up, and play harder next week.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:30 AM   #2
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Re: Wow Those Linebackers played so well Today

We continue to have problems with our D-line...the DT and DE positions need serious upgrading but we did not want to do that this year....Oh well, Let us pray Harris and Springs are back soon. We need Harris as a back up to Rogers and Springs. Jimoh can not figure what to do from one play to the next. He either gets burned for a TD or stops one.

We need an upgrade at LB but I know who could upgrade that position quickly but GW and JG are still mad at him for comments he made in negotiations and in the offseason I think.
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Old 10-10-2005, 06:28 AM   #3
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Re: Wow Those Linebackers played so well Today

two injured corners cost us the game i think, but we kept it close and almost pulled it out. I think healthy harris + springs at least saves ONE of the TD runs or prevents the TD pass that jimoh got burnt on.

Either way, there's no reason to turn into "the sky is falling" iggle fan mode, we're not going to go 16-0 and we barely lost to a very good team. We were in it right up to the last minute too.

A great DE could definately help our defense, but i think another good corner would be more useful (some of us have been ragging on the lack of depth there since smoot left). I would have rather seen wilds out there than jimoh for sure.
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Old 10-10-2005, 08:45 AM   #4
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I'm not downing the Skins I am very proud they played great.... the defense played well ... i saw some weakness in the LB and i'm an Lavar fan....thats all...but i am not saying the skins suck or anything like that they played very well.....
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:08 AM   #5
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the LB's lost this game today... they played horrible.... mean while LaVar sat there. And We had so much pressure on Jake...what a genius Mr Williams is.....
Sorry, I disagree with this entire assessment.

IF, however, you are simply saying the LB's could have played better - well, yes, yes they could, but so could the entire team. I just don't think you can pin this one on the LB's. How about CP's fumble? The "take back" on the safety? Or the offsides on the kick at half time (didja notice it would have been good?).

Would they have played better with LaVar? dunno, never gonna know. Maybe LaVar is out of position on those same two game breaking runs. Lavar? Out of position? Why - that could NEVER happen!

Also, we clearly had enough pressure on Plummer to keep him under 100 yards. Not a bad day's defense of the pass.

As for the sarcastic remark towards GW - well, that's just plain dumb. The man creates killer defenses from back-ups. !!!HE HELD DENVER TO <100 yards PASSING WITH ADE JIMOH AS HIS STARTING CORNER!!!! That alone makes him not just a "genius" but a "fucking Genius"
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:19 PM   #6
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!!!HE HELD DENVER TO <100 yards PASSING WITH ADE JIMOH AS HIS STARTING CORNER!!!! That alone makes him not just a "genius" but a "fucking Genius"

thats gotta be the quote of the week somewhere lol
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:53 AM   #7
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I thought the guy most out of place on the first Tatum Bell run was Carlos Rogers. On a sweep the corner has to maintain outside containment on the play and drive the RB back towards the center of the field. Rogers' primary responsibility was to get his ass to the sidelines and not let Bell get the edge. But I think Rod Smith was blocking Rogers and moved him toward the center of the field, which then gave Bell the edge.

Now Rod Smith is a hell of a blocker, that's for sure. He's a complete WR. But the rookie needs to learn that if the safeties are blitzing like they were on that play, then he's the last line of defense on runs to the edge.
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:06 AM   #8
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If you have to lose, you might as well lose to an AFC team. That said, there are a number of people on this thread who refuse to assign blame to anyone. I'd have to disagree. You can't make excuses either.

For one, opposing teams seem to be impervious to committing turnovers against the Redskins. This has to stop. While we're getting better committing turnovers on offense, (down to one a game), at some point the defense must do more to force fumbles or something. The -5 differential will catch up to this team.

Then there's special teams. Is it really too much to ask for our special teams to at least set up a long return so the offense can get a short field just once a game? I'm not asking for a TD return, though it sure would be nice. Betts simply finds a pile to run into on his returns, while Thrash's only positive is that he's less likely to fumble. Anybody secretly wondering why we let Chad Morton go?

Even if Springs and Harris were in the lineup, one has to wonder whether they would have made any impact on corner blitzes, because even those don't seem to be effective anymore in hurrying the quarterback. I guess it's also too much to ask for some pressure from the defensive line, isn't it?

The lack of a pass rush, and the inability to force turnovers are the main weak spots of this defense. If these issues aren't resolved, along with better special teams play, reality will start catching up to the Redskins in a hurry.
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:14 AM   #9
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The lack of a pass rush, and the inability to force turnovers are the main weak spots of this defense. If these issues aren't resolved, along with better special teams play, reality will start catching up to the Redskins in a hurry.
Exactly thats all i was saying D plays good ... but give a Good QB that much time and see what happens....
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:37 PM   #10
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If you have to lose, you might as well lose to an AFC team. That said, there are a number of people on this thread who refuse to assign blame to anyone. I'd have to disagree. You can't make excuses either.

For one, opposing teams seem to be impervious to committing turnovers against the Redskins. This has to stop. While we're getting better committing turnovers on offense, (down to one a game), at some point the defense must do more to force fumbles or something. The -5 differential will catch up to this team.

Then there's special teams. Is it really too much to ask for our special teams to at least set up a long return so the offense can get a short field just once a game? I'm not asking for a TD return, though it sure would be nice. Betts simply finds a pile to run into on his returns, while Thrash's only positive is that he's less likely to fumble. Anybody secretly wondering why we let Chad Morton go?
Even if Springs and Harris were in the lineup, one has to wonder whether they would have made any impact on corner blitzes, because even those don't seem to be effective anymore in hurrying the quarterback. I guess it's also too much to ask for some pressure from the defensive line, isn't it?

The lack of a pass rush, and the inability to force turnovers are the main weak spots of this defense. If these issues aren't resolved, along with better special teams play, reality will start catching up to the Redskins in a hurry.

I have to agree with most of that. As much as I trust Williams, and would not presume to know better, I miss the jailbreak blitz's we saw so often last season. Have we collected any INT'S? I too, would to see us on the plus side of takeaway's. Lack of pressure on the QB is driving me crazy. I wonder what.................Dexter Manley is up to (or is it in for?). We need a pass rushing end, or a couple of em'. Lavar could help with that if he can make peace with Greg's plan. I know this will change, just impatient
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:13 PM   #11
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Bottom line. We need a pass rush, and Lavar can certainly do that. If GW does not want him in pass coverage, fine, just put him in on obvious blitzing plays. Let him make something happen.
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:01 AM   #12
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Re: Wow Those Linebackers played so well Today

I wonder if this post would've even existed if we played like we did but ended up winning?

I would love to see Gregg Williams be the replacement for Joe Gibbs, that's how much I trust his decisions and his ability to call the shots. But at the same time, I still feel that LaVar should have at least some sort of presence on the field. Denver's Offense was pretty fast yesterday and we needed LaVar's speed and agility on the field yesterday.
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Denver's Offense was pretty fast yesterday and we needed LaVar's speed and agility on the field yesterday.
Well there were times when they just pushed that D around physically.... they just looked anemic to me.. and slow... oh but they knew their assignments....
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:54 PM   #14
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obvious blitzing plays.....like the one that they noticed and quickly audibled to a run that was there second touchdown of the game
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Old 10-10-2005, 06:29 PM   #15
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It's like caging up a wild beast, if he does get back out there for the KC game, damn i'd hate to be the one having to fend him off. LOOOOOOOOOK Ouuuuuuuut Momma!
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