Who is Kirk Cousins?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm not sure why some people bristle at Kirk being considered an average QB. I think you pay Kirk like an average journeyman QB.

RE: Dalton's was more proven at higher level of production when he signed his deal then Kirk is now.

I don't bristle at it. That's where he is right now. He's a middle of the pack starting QB. But you also seem to forget that he's really in his first year as a full time starter. And he also was not named the starter until late in pre season.

W/ KC there is still plenty of time and room for him to improve as long as management commits to him.

But you're basically calling him a "journeymen" type of QB. Matt Cassel is that type of QB, so is Brian Hoyer and Fitzpatrick. Those guys are never good enough to hold on to the job full time and end up with other teams. Right now that's not the case with KC.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't bristle at it. That's where he is right now. He's a middle of the pack starting QB.

Agreed.

But you also seem to forget that he's really in his first year as a full time starter. And he also was not named the starter until late in pre season.

Nah, I realize this is his first year as a fulltime starter. But this is his 4th year in the NFL. And lets be honest, last year Jay handed him the reigns. For all intents and purposes he became the fulltime starter week 3 in 2014; but as you describe with those other journeyman he didn't hold the job.

W/ KC there is still plenty of time and room for him to improve as long as management commits to him.

Maybe. No one is saying he can't improve. Only commenting on what we've seen thus far, which is all I can judge.

But you're basically calling him a "journeymen" type of QB. Matt Cassel is that type of QB, so is Brian Hoyer and Fitzpatrick. Those guys are never good enough to hold on to the job full time and end up with other teams. Right now that's not the case with KC.

Whatever label you want to put on it is fine with me. His production thus far is his production and he should be paid accordingly. Neither here nor there I think Kirk is better then Hoyer and Cassell and about on par with Fitzy.