Breaking News on team name

[Alvin Walton]

[HailGreen28]

The name "redskins" wasn't a slur when it originated. It's not used that way now by Washington fans.

It was used as a slur by novelists and later movie studios, some copyright holders in the "entertainment industry" thereof probably still having deep pockets?

So why not go after the people who profited from using the name as an insult, rather than the fans cheering FOR the Redskins today?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The name "redskins" wasn't a slur when it originated. It's not used that way now by Washington fans.

It was used as a slur by novelists and later movie studios, some copyright holders in the "entertainment industry" thereof probably still having deep pockets?

So why not go after the people who profited from using the name as an insult, rather than the fans cheering FOR the Redskins today?

'Redskins' Is Officially a Dictionary-Defined Racial Slur—in All Cases - ICTMN.com

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

'Redskins' Is Officially a Dictionary-Defined Racial Slur—in All Cases - ICTMN.com

And yet most native americans disagree with your article, giantone.

Redskins Name OK With Most Native Americans

While We're Objecting to the Word 'Redskins,' Shouldn't Oklahoma Change Its Name, Too? - RYOT News

How Many Native Americans Think ‘Redskins’ is a Slur? « CBS DC

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...9a2_story.html

In fact, the poster in your stupid article is completely wrong, the name "redskins" wasn't coined to describe scalps at all, but to distinguish NAs from whites (redskins vs whiteskins).

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languagehat.com : The Real History of the Word Redskin.

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We have been through this argument before, giantone. I am surprised you are still displaying your ignorance on this issue. Even though you have been shown these facts before. Are you just trolling now?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

And yet most native americans disagree with your article, giantone.

We have been through this argument before, giantone. I am surprised you are still displaying your ignorance on this issue. Even though you have been shown these facts before. Are you just trolling now?

First all I was responding to it (the name) that it's not considered a slur.Second if you go back you will see I am on the side of Dan Snyder but feel that change will come so beat them to the punch.As Rushskins has said go with the R on the helmet and just call them the Skins or Washington ,you seem to ignore the facts so I won't get into the ignorance argument . I will say that no I'm not trolling just making a comment on a posting of a forum I happen to go on. Opinions happen.

[hutch17]

once again the name appears to be an issue. Notice in this list the only team listed only by city is Washington.Playoff teams lose players every offseason and these guys could be next - NFL

[mooby]

Originally Posted by hutch17

once again the name appears to be an issue. Notice in this list the only team listed only by city is Washington.Playoff teams lose players every offseason and these guys could be next - NFL

In other news, making a stand is still trendy. More to come on the news at 11.

[PaRedskins44]

I can understand the reason for the name change this is being tossed around from certain people, and the name its self should be looked at as an honor to the America Indian nationality. Iam sure when the name was chosen, it wasn't to show any disrespect to any American indian tribe or heritage, but it was chosen for the "nickname" of their heritage. Today's world is all about change what was then should be changed to something else. If the name is ordered by law to change the team name I have no complaints, but as long as the team colors and "concept" of the American indian heritage is kept, i'll be happy. As for a name change, Maybe the Warriors or maybe the Tribe ?

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The name "redskins" wasn't a slur when it originated. It's not used that way now by Washington fans.

It was used as a slur by novelists and later movie studios, some copyright holders in the "entertainment industry" thereof probably still having deep pockets?

So why not go after the people who profited from using the name as an insult, rather than the fans cheering FOR the Redskins today?

It was...over 200 years ago. Just like the words Vikings and Yankees were. During the Holocaust rainbows were used to mark gay and homosexual prisoners and was meant as an insult. Now the rainbow symbol is used as a badge of pride and honour among the crowd who uses it. In this day and age none of those words or symbols are seen as insults.

[Schneed10]

This was a separate Trademark case as the Redskins' case, but struck down for the same reasons. It figures to apply to the Redskins.

The unconstitutional ruling took place in US District court. It could still go to the appellate level, and after that if the Supreme Court decides it wants to hear it, it could go there. So no, it's not over.

But this is a huge blow to anybody hoping to force a team name change. It doesn't take a constitutional scholar to understand how the government refusing trademarks for this reason is a violation of First Amendment rights.

[Alvin Walton]

I'll just throw out an alternate idea I had.
Let Dan meet with a few or a tribe leader or whatever you want to call them and get their permission and grace to change to the name to the name of their tribe. You dont change the logo, just the name.
So you could have -

The Washington Algonquin
The Washington Cherokees
The Washington Iroquois
etc
etc

[rocnrik]

bad thing about all of this is ..the better the Redskins do the more this becomes a issue ..IF the Skins can go deep into the playoffs this will become a loud roar.

[Kope]

Washington Football Nation.

(note* only if a name change is forced)

Nation would encompass all Native Americans with positive, supportive, non-divisive connotation.

The team represents the capital of the United States, or the American Nation. Again unifying.

We wouldn’t have to change the logo.

Added benefits

We would take the "America's Team" title belt

All kinds of good (corny) word play available with stadium and fan base (we would be "the Nation", a new meaning to "Welcome to Monday Night Football in the Nation's Capital" etc, etc)

All this is tongue in cheek (and only if a name change is forced).

[MTK]

Just leave the name as is. This has been going on for years and years now. People like Florio act like this "movement" has a lot more support than it really does. The majority of people don't care or don't think the name should change.

Carry on.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by MTK

Just leave the name as is. This has been going on for years and years now. People like Florio act like this "movement" has a lot more support than it really does. The majority of people don't care or don't think the name should change.

Carry on.

Not only that but it will not just end with redskins. The people/activists will find something new to bitch about.

I laugh at this, but really this will what will happen...https://twitter.com/barelyin/status/679364872635715584

GIANTS will be seen as offensive. You can twist anything into being offensive. What about Detroit Lions if a Lion ate your cousin at the zoo?

The offended people will always be there and always looking for a reason to be offended.