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Old 10-10-2005, 09:05 AM   #1
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Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I know there is a super duper mega merge Lavar thread, but since he is in all of the post game threads as well I figured this would be ok. On the postgame, Kelli Johnson asked GW about Lavar and he said that he's improving and is getting closer to being able to contribute.. After the interview she quoted sources who go up very high on the staff that said Lavar is practicing with the second team but is still freelancing too much in practice and isn't disciplined enough for the coaches to trust him. Brian Mitchell said it's common knowledge league wide that Arrington is undisciplined and will hurt his own team with mistakes and that he usually costs the Redskins 1-2 games per year with those mistakes. I'm as big of a Lavar fan as there is, but maybe we shouldn't look at all of the conspiracy reasons for Lavar not to play and focus on the man himself..
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:34 AM   #2
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I have no problem with LaVar riding the pine until he EARNS his playing time.

Apparently Gibbs is off the hook now with the fans and we've moved on to blasting Williams.

I find it laughable that some are now questioning GW... a man who many have championed to take over as head coach once Gibbs walks away. A man who has led many top ranked defenses in this league and probably knows a thing or two about personnel and who he feels comfortable working in his schemes.

If we should have learned one thing since Gibbs came back, it's that no individual player is above this team.

Why is LaVar exempt from this with some fans? It's no secret that he tends to play out of position and can get burnt because he doesn't stay true to the scheme.

The Monday Morning coach/GM routine is getting really tired, especially with people thinking they know how more than our coaching staff.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:00 AM   #3
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I did watch the postgame w/ Comcast. I'll go on the record that i am a LA fan. I post my opinion, but i also know that Greg Williams knows alot more about football than me. So, I am also a big GW fan and think this guy is the best defensive mind in the league. Anything this coaching staff does, i'll support. As a skins fan, i would love for LA to make it out there and tear it up. We'll see...
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:06 AM   #4
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I'm a LaVar fan as well, BUT above all I'm a Skins fan.

If GW thinks we're better off right now with LaVar on the bench, call me crazy but I'm going to trust his decision. Just like I trusted Gibbs when he went with Brunell.

Do I always agree with these decisions? Definitely not. But in the end I'll support whatever decisions are made because I trust that Gibbs and this staff always has the team's best interests in mind at all times.

To insinuate that some of these decisions are personal or to stroke someone's ego is just absolutely assanine to me.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

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Why is LaVar exempt from this with some fans?
Because I already bought the jersey. :smashfrea
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:30 AM   #7
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I am a Skins fan as long as they are winning I will support the coaching staff. I was against Brunell starting but look what he is doing. He is putting us in positions to win and not causing us to lose. My only problem with the LA thing isn't that he is not playing but the fact that they are probably just going to release him instead of trade him for something. He is too valuable to just let him go to another team. Plus that way we can dictate where he goes. Don't want him to show up in Dallas, Philly, or NYG and put a hurting on us.
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I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.
I totally agree, just his presence on the field could make an impact. Although, I feel its much more than what they are saying.

I stuck with Gibbs with Brunell and I'll stick with Gregg with this decision.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:33 PM   #10
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I'm a LaVar fan as well, BUT above all I'm a Skins fan.

If GW thinks we're better off right now with LaVar on the bench, call me crazy but I'm going to trust his decision. Just like I trusted Gibbs when he went with Brunell.

Do I always agree with these decisions? Definitely not. But in the end I'll support whatever decisions are made because I trust that Gibbs and this staff always has the team's best interests in mind at all times.

To insinuate that some of these decisions are personal or to stroke someone's ego is just absolutely assanine to me.
Well said.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:39 PM   #11
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Brian Mitchell said it's common knowledge league wide that Arrington is undisciplined and will hurt his own team with mistakes and that he usually costs the Redskins 1-2 games per year with those mistakes.
This is the dumbest comment I've ever heard about LaVar, and I'm not the least bit suprised it came from the mouth of Brian Mitchell. Someone please give me an example of a game that LaVar has lost for the Skins, because the only game I can remember LaVar being single handedly responsible for the outcome was the Carolina game a few years back when the Skins were 0-5 and looking at 0-6 and LaVar intercepted the ball and returned it for a touchdown. Winning the game, and basically single handedly turning the season around.

Everyone wants to discount the "conspiricy theories", but no one thinks that LaVar having a contract dispute recently and bad mouthing the medical staff in the offseason has anything to do with him not playing? Also, he can only void his final two years of his contract if he makes the Pro Bowl twice in the next two years, but hmmm... the three time pro bowler isn't playing good enough to start. I bet LaVar gets a lot more playing time around week 6 or 7, when he'll be unable to get the type of stats needed to make the Pro Bowl.

And everyone seems to think Holdman is a "solid" replacement. So far this season Marcus Washington has 28 tackles, Marshall has 24, and Holdman has 10, with no sacks, picks, or forced fumbles. In the 2 games that Arrington played in Williams system last year, he had 15 tackles and a sack, but all of the sudden he doesn't know how to play football. If Greg Williams actually believes that LaVar overpursues and freelances too much, then why isn't Omar Stoutmire starting over Sean Taylor?
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

It doesnt make any sense to have one of our best defensive players on the bench! When the run game wasnt working so well last year the skins tailored the blocking skemes to suit Portis, why dont they tailor something on D for Lavar? We cant get pressure from our lineman on D and for some reason GW stopped blitzing, maybe we do need someone who can go in there and wreak havoc. The fact that they are saying that LA doesnt fit into the scheme is just BS, he fit perfectly fine last year before he got hurt, he was the face of the Skins now he just an overpaid bench warmer. I say play your best players, and especially a player that you just re-negotiated a contract with and are paying large sums of money. Our D right now isnt an attacking D, it seems like we let things come at us rather than going up against an offense and punching them square in the mouth!
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:36 PM   #13
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

Lavar has alwasy been my favorite player on the skins in recent years. That's irrelivent though...winning is all that matters. I think many of the people who want Lavar to play will cite our defenses lack of sacks and turnovers as the reason. Lavar probably would bring some of those big plays, but he will probably also give up a lot of them in the process. GW has certainly weighed this out in his mind and at this point he obviously thinks that Lavar will cause more harm than good right now. What i find amazing is that Lavar obviously is still free lancing in practice. Knowing that the only way he will play on Sunday is if he follows his assignments durning the week and he is still messing up!
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:40 PM   #14
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It doesnt make any sense to have one of our best defensive players on the bench! When the run game wasnt working so well last year the skins tailored the blocking skemes to suit Portis, why dont they tailor something on D for Lavar? We cant get pressure from our lineman on D and for some reason GW stopped blitzing, maybe we do need someone who can go in there and wreak havoc. The fact that they are saying that LA doesnt fit into the scheme is just BS, he fit perfectly fine last year before he got hurt, he was the face of the Skins now he just an overpaid bench warmer. I say play your best players, and especially a player that you just re-negotiated a contract with and are paying large sums of money. Our D right now isnt an attacking D, it seems like we let things come at us rather than going up against an offense and punching them square in the mouth!

Exactly. Why do we not have packages in place just for Lavar. If he does not stay put in coverage, fine, don't use him in coverage. Put there are clearly times when we want to pressure the qb, and he is the best person on the team for that. He is a pure athlete, let him use those talents to beat his man. If he gets double teamed, then someone else has the chance of getting the qb. Third and long, bring the blitz. Lavar is the man for that down.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:43 PM   #15
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Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)

I remember when I played football in high school and the coaches put me in as linebacker (and I was small at that!) Everytime I played linebacker, I always caused a fumble or forced the QB to throw when he didn't want to - which usually resulted in an INT. However, the coaches were always fussin' at me because I didn't play my assignment. I'm think, I thought I did something good for my team. I think it's more of regardless of the fact, do what you're told!

GW's defense works on team work - but sometimes to make a defense a top defense, you do have to have those special players who are big play type of guys.
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