Cousins has arrived

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Kirk has answered that question quite nicely, he deserves to be re-signed and be the starting QB moving forward.



The next question is compensation, which is about where the other thread left off.

Hail hail the gangs all here now.

[53Fan]

Kirk has definitely proved he's a very good QB who is capable of becoming great. For those who doubted him...YOU LIKE THAT?!!!

[mooby]

The Freshmen | The Players' Tribune

Not NFL related but Kirk wrote this article for TPB. Good read on how far Michigan State has come since Kirk arrived there.

[Schneed10]

Continuous QBR tracking. Cousins now 7th after 16 weeks. Arrived is right.

RK PLAYER TOTAL QBR
1 Carson Palmer, ARI 83.1
2 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 75.0
3 Russell Wilson, SEA 73.6
4 Drew Brees, NO 73.2
5 Andy Dalton, CIN 73.1
6 Tyrod Taylor, BUF 67.8
7 Kirk Cousins, WSH 67.7
8 Aaron Rodgers, GB 67.2
9 Ryan Fitzpatrick, NYJ 66.8
10 Teddy Bridgewater, MIN 66.4
11 Alex Smith, KC 65.7
12 Tom Brady, NE 65.6
13 Cam Newton, CAR 65.3
14 Brian Hoyer, HOU 63.8
15 Philip Rivers, SD 61.7
16 Eli Manning, NYG 61.0
17 Marcus Mariota, TEN 61.0
18 Jay Cutler, CHI 60.8
19 Matt Ryan, ATL 60.6
19 Matthew Stafford, DET 60.6
21 Jameis Winston, TB 60.6
22 Matt Hasselbeck, IND 55.1
23 Josh McCown, CLE 53.9
24 Derek Carr, OAK 50.7
25 Brock Osweiler, DEN 50.3
26 Blake Bortles, JAX 49.6
27 Andrew Luck, IND 47.6
28 Colin Kaepernick, SF 47.1
29 Peyton Manning, DEN 45.0
30 Blaine Gabbert, SF 43.1
31 Joe Flacco, BAL 40.9
32 Sam Bradford, PHI 37.5
33 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 36.9
34 Nick Foles, STL 30.0

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Teddy Bridgewater being that high surprises me a bit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Teddy Bridgewater being that high surprises me a bit.

Right? Anytime I watch that guy I'm always like meh

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Teddy Bridgewater being that high surprises me a bit.

For one thing, QBR takes into account situation. Since the Vikings find themselves in winning situations fairly often because of AP and a strong defense, he's just asked not to screw it up. He keeps turnovers low.

He also does a good job drawing pass interference and taking advantage of free plays (like when Rodgers always goes downfield when he knows he got the other team to jump offsides). And he's not a total statue, he has run for a few big first downs.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Teddy Bridgewater being that high surprises me a bit.

I like to look at all the different QB stats and Teddy is much lower on Football Outsiders DVR/DVOA stats and the ole nfl passer rating but Kirk is still around 7th.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Interesting. I just feel like I never see him make any impressive throws and that wind-up if Leftwich 2.0. Oh well, just odd to see him rated that high. I guess when I look at either of those metrics, sometimes it's about the eyeball test for me. Can't say I've seen him (and some others in the top half) put the teams on their back and carry them like Cousins to Palmer have.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Interesting. I just feel like I never see him make any impressive throws and that wind-up if Leftwich 2.0. Oh well, just odd to see him rated that high. I guess when I look at either of those metrics, sometimes it's about the eyeball test for me. Can't say I've seen him (and some others in the top half) put the teams on their back and carry them like Cousins to Palmer have.

Yeah, that's my point those other metrics I mentioned have Bridgewater rated much lower then QBR rating which supports what we're saying which is Teddy's play doesn't look as good as his QBR.

Disagree about his throwing motion though, it more of 3/4 or side-arm action then a big looping Leftwhich wind-up to my eye.

A QB that's quietly put together a very good 1st season as a starter is Tyrod Taylor. He was taken in the 2011 draft when we punted on the QB position and took Evan Royster and Aldrick Robinson.

[over the mountain]

“What I needed was not to go throw the football more, I needed to be learning from a guy who really knows the game inside and out so that mentally I could own protections and own reads and concepts and progressions to where I can do it in my sleep,” he said. “That was going to be the difference for me from being what I was last year to being a much better quarterback. You have to get around somebody who really knows the game.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...face-for-help/

quick interesting read. apparently last year when cousins was 3rd string he reached out and got outside-organization from a QB/WR training academy "throw it deep" and Jon gruden.

[skinsfaninok]

Washington Redskins QB Kirk Cousins used patience, teammates to win - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Washington Redskins QB Kirk Cousins used patience, teammates to win - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

Mike Shanahan said this would happen.... Cousins was a star in waiting all along.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Mike Shanahan said this would happen.... Cousins was a star in waiting all along.

Mike Shanahan also said that he'd stake his reputation on John Beck's play. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Mike Shanahan also said that he'd stake his reputation on John Beck's play. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

LOL

While that's funny, the difference is Shanahan had to say that because Beck was kind of the only option he had at the time, and needed to galvanize the team and make them believe in the vision.

Shanahan doesn't have to say anything positive about Cousins now. He let fly on RG3 once he was gone, saying he needed to change his study habits. With Cousins I guess there's an ego thing involved, a 'look how right I was' kind of thing. But to say he can be a top 10 guy, that's going out on a limb when you really don't have to. I think his comment is fairly genuine, mainly because he clearly articulates reasons why Cousins can be successful: work ethic, perfectionist nature, introspective, understands how to rely on his teammates, and knows what he doesn't know.