Round 2 Nfl playoffs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Manning is absolutely NOT the greatest QB ever. Not even top 3 IMO.

Maybe not today but you are incorrect.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Maybe not today but you are incorrect.

Today and yesterday. He has the stats but chokes in big games. I would put Brady, Montana and Elway all above him (in that order).

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Today and yesterday. He has the stats but chokes in big games. I would put Brady, Montana and Elway all above him (in that order).

So when his WR drop passes over and over again, that's Manning choking? Interesting.


Also, Peyton still owns the most 4th quarter comeback wins as a QB in NFL history. Nope. He chokes all the time. /s

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So when his WR drop passes over and over again, that's Manning choking? Interesting.


Also, Peyton still owns the most 4th quarter comeback wins as a QB in NFL history. Nope. He chokes all the time. /s

You know what a staw man is?

I didn't say he chokes all the time.

And I'm noy talking about today's game, but the countless other playoff and SUPERBOWLS he has choked in.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You know what a staw man is?

I didn't say he chokes all the time.

And I'm noy talking about today's game, but the countless other playoff and SUPERBOWLS he has choked in.

Can you break down film of those games you claimed he "choked" in and get back to me? You assume since his team lost the game, it was ultimately his fault. Unless you broke down the film and every offensive snap, chances are you don't know jack shit about what you are talking about.


Did you know that the teams Peyton has been on are 2-2 against the Patriots in the playoffs. That's against one of the guy you put above him.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Can you break down film of those games you claimed he "choked" in and get back to me? You assume since his team lost the game, it was ultimately his fault. Unless you broke down the film and every offensive snap, chances are you don't know jack shit about what you are talking about.


Did you know that the teams Peyton has been on are 2-2 against the Patriots in the playoffs. That's against one of the guy you put above him.

Go back and watch the Superbowl losses to the Saints and to the Seahawks, and the countless other playoff losses hen get back to me. Great regular season stats, yes. Top 5 kr top greatest of all time, definitely. But he is probably the greatest choke artist of all time. That you continue to argue against him playing bad in the postseason shows me it's you who has no idea.


It's official: Manning all-time greatest . . . choke artist | Comcast SportsNet - CSNNE.com

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Go back and watch the Superbowl losses to the Saints and to the Seahawks, and the countless other playoff losses hen get back to me. Great regular season stats, yes. Top 5 kr top greatest of all time, definitely. But he is probably the greatest choke artist of all time. That you continue to argue against him playing bad in the postseason shows me it's you who has no idea.


It's official: Manning all-time greatest . . . choke artist | Comcast SportsNet - CSNNE.com

So you just deflected...lol So you haven't broken down the film to say who was the blame on each snap? Yet, you sit here and claim he choked. Get the fuck outta here man.

What was the point of posting that shit article from the New England area? That moron hasn't broken down game film either.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Today and yesterday. He has the stats but chokes in big games. I would put Brady, Montana and Elway all above him (in that order).

Statements like your are the reason for drug testing in the work place today.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Statements like your are the reason for drug testing in the work place today.

Excellent response. So again, how is he better than the 3 quarterbacks I mentioned?

Anyway, where the hell do you come off saying that shit? As if it were ridiculous to say the 3 quarterbacks I mentioned (arguably the 3 best ever) are better than Manning.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Excellent response. So again, how is he better than the 3 quarterbacks I mentioned?

Anyway, where the hell do you come off saying that shit? As if it were ridiculous to say the 3 quarterbacks I mentioned (arguably the 3 best ever) are better than Manning.

Okay you started the shit show tell us all why you think they(those 3) are better than Manning?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Okay you started the shit show tell us all why you think they(those 3) are better than Manning?

Mediocre postseason stats. Only 1 ring.

The other 3 have 10 rings between them plus greater legacies. It's pretty simple. They carried their teams when it counted most.

Montana never threw an interception in any of the 4 Superbowls he won.

Brady won played in 6 Superbowls, won 4 and may well be on his way to his 5th.

Elway, hell, he may be thr best of the bunch. If pressed Inmay choose him out of the 4 to be my QB.

Those guys are proven winnrrd. Manning, not so much. Honestly not sure I would even rank Manning in the top 5.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Mediocre postseason stats. Only 1 ring.
Honestly not sure I would even rank Manning in the top 5.

....yeah wow .

[mooby]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Mediocre postseason stats. Only 1 ring.

The other 3 have 10 rings between them plus greater legacies. It's pretty simple. They carried their teams when it counted most.

Montana never threw an interception in any of the 4 Superbowls he won.

Brady won played in 6 Superbowls, won 4 and may well be on his way to his 5th.

Elway, hell, he may be thr best of the bunch. If pressed Inmay choose him out of the 4 to be my QB.

Those guys are proven winnrrd. Manning, not so much. Honestly not sure I would even rank Manning in the top 5.

Just curious here, not trying to start an argument. The rings debate obviously plays a role to an extent, but I'm curious if that's the be-all/end-all of the debate or if it's just a part of the overall package.

Would you say Eli is better than Peyton? After all, 2 rings vs. one and you can argue Eli played a bigger role in those 2 wins then Peyton did in his.

Where does Dan Marino stand in your rankings? Is he all the way at the bottom since he never won a SB?

I get that SB wins definitely plays a part, but I don't believe that's the final argument. Is Roethlisberger better than Peyton? Not in my book. Football is one of the ultimate team sports. It's not like basketball where you can group 3 elite players on a team and compete for a championship 4 years in a row.

I honestly feel like Peyton gets a bad rap for the SB's, when the GM's strategy was "give Peyton a solid team and let him take care of the rest." For me the difference lies in the fact that when Brady went down for the year, the Pats survived and went 11-5 because that team was solid from the ground up. But when Peyton went down for the year they had one of the worst tank jobs I've ever seen. That's the difference.