Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I agree about holding off on any contract negotiations until we see more, however RG-3 has nothing to do with it. He never, ever had the accuracy or quick release that KC has demonstrated.


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows

That for the most part is true,when watching highlights from his first year he was pretty damn good with his accuracy and getting it out quick,after that it fell to shit,but that wasnt my point.
My point was a lot of RG3 defenders would point to how good his stats were,and stats mean nothing when they come at the wrong time of the game.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

You guys are killing me that say pay him after 4 weeks
Stats dont mean shit,RG3 had good stats.He had another costly int Sunday that gave Cleveland an easy TD that luckily the team was able to overcome by getting some turnovers in the 4th,and it's a good thing because our defense wasnt stopping the Browns without those turnovers.
Kirk's problem has been consistency,how bout we hold off for a while before saying pay the man.

Stats mean a lot. And the more stats you have on a player, the more they mean. They help in making a more objective appraisal of a players performance. They also provide a broader perspective on a player when his stats are compared to those of his peers.

Here are some of Cousin's stats and rankings so far this season:

Total Yards: 1,172 (6th)
Completion Pct: 66.2 (13th)
Yards per Game: 293.0 (6th)
Touchdowns: 6 (11th)
Interceptions Thrown: 4 (12th)
QB Rating: 91.8 (13th)

So, let's just say that Kirk is the 13th rated QB based on the above numbers. I just can't come up with a another solution that is likely to produce a better QB than keeping Kirk Cousins would. He could be a Top 10 QB by season's end and that is very hard to find. Nevertheless, I agree with you that there is no reason to lock him up now.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Stats mean a lot. And the more stats you have on a player, the more they mean. They help in making a more objective appraisal of a players performance. They also provide a broader perspective on a player when his stats are compared to those of his peers.

Here are some of Cousin's stats and rankings so far this season:

Total Yards: 1,172 (6th)
Completion Pct: 66.2 (13th)
Yards per Game: 293.0 (6th)
Touchdowns: 6 (11th)
Interceptions Thrown: 4 (12th)
QB Rating: 91.8 (13th)

So, let's just say that Kirk is the 13th rated QB based on the above numbers. I just can't come up with a another solution that is likely to produce a better QB than keeping Kirk Cousins would. He could be a Top 10 QB by season's end and that is very hard to find. Nevertheless, I agree with you that there is no reason to lock him up now.

So for the sake of argument,what if all 4 of his interceptions came in the red zone,50 % of his passing yardage came in garbage time along with 4 of his tds,would you still say your stats matter? Thats why stats dont matter,or to rephrase they dont always tell the right story.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

So for the sake of argument,what if all 4 of his interceptions came in the red zone,50 % of his passing yardage came in garbage time along with 4 of his tds,would you still say your stats matter? Thats why stats dont matter,or to rephrase they dont always tell the right story.

Did you just completely make up stats to prove that stats dont matter?

I understand stats aren't everything and all that jazz, but if you look at the stat leaders in any category during any year the leaders are all going to usually be your studs. So to say they dont matter is not true. They dont always tell the whole story, but they tell most of it...


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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

So for the sake of argument,what if all 4 of his interceptions came in the red zone,50 % of his passing yardage came in garbage time along with 4 of his tds,would you still say your stats matter? Thats why stats dont matter,or to rephrase they dont always tell the right story.

You got another plan other than locking up Kirk Cousins?

Please don't tell me it's about the money because Kirk has the 13th highest 2016 salary among NFL QB's, which seems to me to be about right for this season. As for the total amount of guaranteed salary, Kirk is ranked 24th, behind such luminaries as Ryan Tannehill and Brock Osweiler. In this league, even mediocre starting QB's cost a ridiculous amount in salary and cap space.

[Schneed10]

Point of order: playing under the franchise tag means you are forbidden by the CBA from negotiating during the season. We cannot negotiate with him AT ALL until after the Super Bowl.

So stahp it. Just ride the season out and see how he does.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Point of order: playing under the franchise tag means you are forbidden by the CBA from negotiating during the season. We cannot negotiate with him AT ALL until after the Super Bowl.



So stahp it. Just ride the season out and see how he does.

Thanks because I was sort of wondering why the franchise meant absolutely nothing if there could still be negotiations. Lol


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[MTK]

And fuck RG3 already

[MTK]

At this rate KC is going to get paid. Nothing to worry about.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

At this rate KC is going to get paid. Nothing to worry about.

KC is gonna get paid period. Even if we decide to go another route or he simply bombs...teams will lineup to pay him just based on last year. That QB play from last night....there is a serious need of QB talent.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

At this rate KC is going to get paid. Nothing to worry about.

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

Mediocre gets paid now, it's a QB league.

The rule changes are trending even more toward it being a QB league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.

Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

Yea really.

The bigger point is we can win with him now and he is only going to get better. Those guy aren't winners.

If Kirk had a defense and the offense was balanced to support him we would be a perennial playoff contender vying for the conference, much less the division.

Having to score more than 30 a game to win is tough.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

I see where you're coming from,if he continues on that path he has for the last 2 games then its all well and good,but if not then he's no better than those I mentioned.