Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can pay KC and have a good defense. Total nonsense that you can't have both.

We don't need that much to be even a decent def. All we need is a top 12 ish defense.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can pay KC and have a good defense. Total nonsense that you can't have both.

This is easier said than done.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

This is easier said than done.

How do the Patriots , Seattle, Denver (last year), Giants, Baltimore, Carolina (last year) do it?

What about great/good defenses with large contracts at qb position- Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, cincy?

Is it magic?

[KI Skins Fan]

Some folks here seem to be unable to put into context what Kirk Cousins has accomplished in the short time he has been our starter. Nor do they seem to appreciate what it takes to find and keep a decent QB on your team in today's NFL.

Kirk's detractors discount many noteworthy facts about Kirk's performance of which they must be aware. They also ignore the realities of player contracts in today's NFL. There are Many, many facts posted here in support of retaining Kirk and paying him very well. What I don't see here are the facts in support of not signing Kirk to a long-term contract. If you don't think he should be signed long-term, educate the rest of us by showing us something that is factual and not subjective in support of your position.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Some folks here seem to be unable to put into context what Kirk Cousins has accomplished in the short time he has been our starter. Nor do they seem to appreciate what it takes to find and keep a decent QB on your team in today's NFL.

Kirk's detractors discount many noteworthy facts about Kirk's performance of which they must be aware. They also ignore the realities of player contracts in today's NFL. There are Many, many facts posted here in support of retaining Kirk and paying him very well. What I don't see here are the facts in support of not signing Kirk to a long-term contract. If you don't think he should be signed long-term, educate the rest of us by showing us something that is factual and not subjective in support of your position.

I think they absolutley SHOULD sign Kirk to something long term. But it seems that even after the past two seasons, the Redskins probably aren't going to do that. The fact that there are even people "internal" that are still suggesting we could get Cousins-like numbers from Mc-Coy like QB's are all the proof we need that this team is no different. Complete ineptitude still from top to bottom.

[warriorzpath]

I think most everyone thinks Cousins is a good QB and may turn into a great QB. But it's not a given. The only problem is he will be paid like he's a great QB already. And the more money that you give him, the less you can give someone else.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think most everyone thinks Cousins is a good QB and may turn into a great QB. But it's not a given. The only problem is he will be paid like he's a great QB already. And the more money that you give him, the less you can give someone else.

So you're saying, if we build a complete team with a crappy quarterback, we might win some games and maybe a Super Bowl? Sounds iffy, but let's give it a shot.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mooby

So you're saying, if we build a complete team with a crappy quarterback, we might win some games and maybe a Super Bowl? Sounds iffy, but let's give it a shot.

Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said.

If you call Cousins a crappy qb.

If you can't get I'm being sarcastic- no that's not close to anything I've said.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said.

If you call Cousins a crappy qb.

If you can't get I'm being sarcastic- no that's not close to anything I've said.

So what you're saying is, Kirk is a crappy qb? Sounds iffy, but let me hear your theory.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mooby

So what you're saying is, Kirk is a crappy qb? Sounds iffy, but let me hear your theory.

Right now, I think your mental state sounds iffy.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mooby

So what you're saying is, Kirk is a crappy qb? Sounds iffy, but let me hear your theory.

Truth is I'm iffy on if you're playing dumb or if you're really like this.

[warriorzpath]

I think most of us can appreciate both sides of the argument, but it's hard to be in this discussion without arguing for one side or the other. I say sign him because that's what's best, but it's still not a slam dunk decision- there are some drawbacks to this and there will be pressure for McCloughan to hit in the draft and for existing players to develop.

Everyone knows that the draft is a crapshoot. And if McCloughan is not fortunate enough he could be on the hot seat. And I believe he is the one person that has helped this team turn it around the most.

[warriorzpath]

If it's unfair to anyone, it's McCloughan. I just don't want to chase him away.

[SolidSnake84]

I think if McCloughan quite literally plays moneyball at the QB position and it backfires horribly, that will for sure end his tenure here and most likely his NFL career.

Another great poster here outlined the scenario - It is sometime late in December and the 2-11 Washington Redskins are starting Nate Sudfeld because Colt McCoy has been out for the season with an injury, facing the 12-2 Denver Broncos led by Kirk Cousins and a first year head coach.

[skinsfaninok]

There is no chance colt McCoy starts next year even if kirk isn't back.

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