Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm definitely not saying Cousins should be immune to criticism; if you read my posts above you can see I'm caught somewhere between long term commitment if fair and trade him if you can get a good deal, like two first round picks.



I just take umbrage at the term game manager. That doesn't fit. He's a gunslinger. The question is can he become a gunslinger who comes through in the clutch as opposed to one that throws the big INT against the Giants in Week 17.



I definitely have questions about him, but I've seen enough to want to commit about three years to him.

I want the Redskins to sign him too but I think it's valid to be reluctant at his asking price. I still think it's the best thing to sign him even with what he's asking for but it's not without risk and drawbacks- considering that Cousins may not reach the expectations of his contract.

[MTK]

A game manager isn't someone who throws for nearly 5000 yards and accounts for 30 TDs. Game manager fits well with someone like Alex Smith, but his game and Cousins are totally different.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by MTK

A game manager isn't someone who throws for nearly 5000 yards and accounts for 30 TDs. Game manager fits well with someone like Alex Smith, but his game and Cousins are totally different.

Well that's where Bucky Brooks's "trailer" comment comes into play. His production is elevated by others.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Well that's where Bucky Brooks's "trailer" comment comes into play. His production is elevated by others.

It is obvious to anyone, Kirk was carried by the running game and the defense.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

It is obvious to anyone, Kirk was carried by the running game and the defense.

Save the snarky comments for rest of the fanboys. This guy did this for a living and also played for years.

[MTK]

I still don't see it. If you put Smith in this offense do you think he would put up the same numbers? I don't.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

I still don't see it. If you put Smith in this offense do you think he would put up the same numbers? I don't.

or the flip side, if you put KC in that game yesterday, does he hit the passes Smith missed. There were several passes, and moments that KC would have made, and KC would have won, probably going away the way KC's D played on their half of the field.

Comparing Alex Smith and KC at this point is fairly ludicrous.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

or the flip side, if you put KC in that game yesterday, does he hit the passes Smith missed. There were several passes, and moments that KC would have made, and KC would have won, probably going away the way KC's D played on their half of the field.



Comparing Alex Smith and KC at this point is fairly ludicrous.

What's so ridiculous about it? Smith has also produced enough to get them to this point. To being a legit championship contender.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

What's so ridiculous about it? Smith has also produced enough to get them to this point. To being a legit championship contender.

Kansas offense:

PASS YDS
233.8
(19th)

Kansas defense:
PTS
19.4
(7th)

Washington offense:

PASS YDS
297.4
(2nd)

Washington Defense:
PTS
23.9
(19th)


It's ludicrous to think Smith is why Kansas City was in the playoffs. Kansas made the playoffs on the back of a defense that stopped Pittsburgh on six separate possessions. The Skins almost made the playoffs despite a defense that gave up 38 to that same Pittsburgh team.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Kansas offense:



PASS YDS

233.8

(19th)



Kansas defense:

PTS

19.4

(7th)



Washington offense:



PASS YDS

297.4

(2nd)



Washington Defense:

PTS

23.9

(19th)





It's ludicrous to think Smith is why Kansas City was in the playoffs. Kansas made the playoffs on the back of a defense that stopped Pittsburgh on six separate possessions. The Skins almost made the playoffs despite a defense that gave up 38 to that same Pittsburgh team.

I didn't say that Smith was the reason the Chiefs were in the playoffs. On the contrary- I even said that the Chiefs were probably the most complete team in the playoffs.

[warriorzpath]

It might make more sense and save me from being so redundant like so many have complained about.

[CRedskinsRule]

This is a fantasy site, but about midway down the page they chart game performance of Cousins, and of Smith.
Alex Smith vs Kirk Cousins

Cousins graph is consistently above the league average, and nears the peak multiple times while Smith's graph is mostly barely average to well below average.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a fantasy site, but about midway down the page they chart game performance of Cousins, and of Smith.

Alex Smith vs Kirk Cousins



Cousins graph is consistently above the league average, and nears the peak multiple times while Smith's graph is mostly barely average to well below average.

Did you read my Bucky Brooks posts?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Did you read my Bucky Brooks posts?

Was it after Question Number 3?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Was it after Question Number 3?

Was Question # 3 - is CRedskinsRule dumb or dumber than Mooby?

My answer is - I don't know.