2016 Combine

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 30gut

LBs w/size:

Josh Perry-Ohio State
6'4''--254--40: 4.68 (10 split)1.67 vert 33.5--- college OLB that may be positionless in the NFL, I would love him inside at ILB and maybe move to edge on 3rd. Big strong kid that moves well for his size

Steven Daniels-Boston College
5'11'' 243--4.86--1.68 v 32 ---tackling machine in college, downhill thumper, moved okay in drills


Jared Norris-Utah
6'1" 241--4.8--1.65 v29.5---lil stiff in drills, upright

Tyler Makatevich-Temple
6' 231--4.81--1.68 v31 ---another tackling machine; good movement in drills

Nick Kwiatkowski-WV
6'2 243 4.73--1.64 v32---Smooth in drills

CJ Johnson-Miss
6'1" 234--4.81--1.71 ---A lil stiff in drills

BJ Goodson-Clemson
6'1 242--4.71--1.65 v34.5---thumper type, moved well in drill

Joe Schobert
6'1 244 4.67--1.63 v33.5---another college OLB that can maybe kick inside smooth in drills

Reggie Ragland
6'1 247 4.72--1.66 v31.5---Okay in drills, lil choppy

Scooby Wright
6 239 4.9--1.67 v31----solid college mlb, won bunch of LB awards 2 years ago, coming off injury, decent in the drill

Blake Martinez
6'1 239 4.71 v28.5---good movement

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Josh Perry-Ohio State
6'4''--254--40: 4.68 (10 split)1.67 vert 33.5--- college OLB that may be positionless in the NFL, I would love him inside at ILB and maybe move to edge on 3rd. Big strong kid that moves well for his size.

Agreed about trying him inside. Very good Combine all-around for him. I wrote "Mike LB" in my notes.

Steven Daniels-Boston College
5'11'' 243--4.86--1.68 v 32 ---tackling machine in college, downhill thumper, moved okay in drills


Jared Norris-Utah
6'1" 241--4.8--1.65 v29.5---lil stiff in drills, upright

Tyler Makatevich-Temple
6' 231--4.81--1.68 v31 ---another tackling machine; good movement in drills

Nick Kwiatkowski-WV
6'2 243 4.73--1.64 v32---Smooth in drills

CJ Johnson-Miss
6'1" 234--4.81--1.71 ---A lil stiff in drills

BJ Goodson-Clemson
6'1 242--4.71--1.65 v34.5---thumper type, moved well in drill

Strong as an ox! Also fast with long arms.

Joe Schobert
6'1 244 4.67--1.63 v33.5---another college OLB that can maybe kick inside smooth in drills

He surprised me. Ran well and I thought he was excellent in drills. Short arms.

Reggie Ragland
6'1 247 4.72--1.66 v31.5---Okay in drills, lil choppy

Agree about drills but he checked out as advertised.

Scooby Wright
6 239 4.9--1.67 v31----solid college mlb, won bunch of LB awards 2 years ago, coming off injury, decent in the drill

I thought he looked terrible in drills and he ran slow. I wonder if he has recovered from his leg and foot injuries.

Blake Martinez
6'1 239 4.71 v28.5---good movement

Good Combine but he didn't impress me on tape.

Kyle Fackrell 6-5 245 4.72 --- Ran well, OK in drills, said to be good on ST. Could be a nice later round pickup.

Some players who looked good in conversion drills who might be good 3-4 OLB prospects:

Shilique Calhoun 6-4 251 4.83 --- ran slow but looked good in drills. I think he can cover. Need to check that 40 time at his pro day.

Kamalei Correa 6-3 243 4.7 --- Terrific athlete but very short arms. Could move inside.

Noah Spence 6-2 251 4.8 --- Slow 40 but a good 10-yard split. Did not look good in space. Might be a pass rusher only.

Shaq Lawson 6-3 269 4.7 --- I dont think he can cover either. Might be a 4-3 DE.

Yannick Ngakoue 6-2 252 4.75 --- Looked very smooth and comfortable in conversion drills.

Emmanuel Ogbah and Charles Tapper are two amazing big athletes who have every physical trait a team could ever want. I don't know anything about them as football players but Ogbah did OK in the conversion drills.

[30gut]

Didnt watch alot of the DL, i got some work to do there.

But generally speaking I'm never very worried about the coverage ability of an edge rusher.

Don't know much about the other guys but...
I like Spence, Lawson and Ogbah they proly get drafted in reverse order above. PFF was raving about Ogbah prior to the combine. Will post later.

For the ILB I was specifically looking for guys that were stout with an eye to helping out the run game. Even tho most of these guys have size some of them are scheme protected so u don't get to see them stack and shed




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[KI Skins Fan]

I watched the Interior D-Lineman drills. Most of the known studs checked out both in their measurements and their drills.

To be specific, these players looked like the real deal to me:

Andrew Billings - Very impressive quickness and power.
Joey Bosa - The Energizer Bunny. Versatile.
DeForest Buckner - Made everything look easy.
Jonathan Bullard - Fast, quick, and strong. May be a 4-3 guy at 285 pounds.
Kenny Clark - Great in drills.
Robert Nkemdiche - Amazing athlete at 294 pounds.
Sheldon Rankins - Runs well, very quick with great balance, and strong.
Jarran Reed - Top notch athlete.
A'Shawn Robinson - Same as Reed. Does Alabama have a 3-D printer for D-Lineman?

That makes 9 D-Linemen who could be 1st Round picks, IMHO.

Interior Linemen whose numbers and/or drills disappointed:

Austin Johnson
Adolphus Washington

Interior Linemen who surprised in a good way:

Sheldon Day - Very quick and runs well.
Javon Hargrave - Big, strong, fast, and worked out well. From South Carolina State!
Willie Henry - Has all the measureables and worked out well.
Matt Ioannidis - Big, very strong, and very athletic.
Hassan Ridgeway - Good drills, showed real power.
Jihad Ward - Looked very good in drills. Tall with long arms.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I watched the Interior D-Lineman drills. Most of the known studs checked out both in their measurements and their drills.

To be specific, these players looked like the real deal to me:
Robert Nkemdiche - Amazing athlete at 294 pounds.
Scares the heck out me with his off the field stuff...but the kid can play

Sheldon Rankins - Runs well, very quick with great balance, and strong.
His movement ability is surprisingly nimble


Interior Linemen who surprised in a good way:

Sheldon Day - Very quick and runs well.
Reminds me a lot of Rankings

Javon Hargrave - Big, strong, fast, and worked out well. From South Carolina State!Can you believe cbs/nfldraftscout has (had maybe soon) him as a 4th rounder?

Matt Ioannidis - Big, very strong, and very athletic.Carried over a good senior bowl performance

Jihad Ward - Looked very good in drills. Tall with long arms
I don't know much about other then freakish athleticism he showed on that dunk, but the physical talent he displayed there was impressive enough to make me want to watch him on film

I hate that many of the top DBs didn't run.
Disappointed in D/Thompson
Impressive 40s from TJ Green and T.Powell make me want to see them on film

KJ Dillon did enough to put him on my draft list

[30gut]

Post combine question at pick 21:

If Noah Spence vs Emmanuel Ogbah vs Josh Doctsun vs Reggie Ragland vs Sheldon Rankins vs Mackenzie Alexander are available and you can't trade down who do you take?

[30gut]

My rankings right now:

Emmanuel Ogbah
Noah Spence
Mackenzie Alexander
Doctsun
Rankins
Ragland

[TheMalcolmConnection]

With the draft so deep at DT/DE, I take either Ragland or Doctsun. I know I didn't answer the question, but I'd narrow it down to those two.

Now, if I'm future-proofing my team with the expectation of losing either Garcon or Jackson (or both) I take Doctsun. WRs make me nervous as hell, but I'd be fine on living with Compton and Mason for a season or two.

[Chico23231]

30, imo you listed guys who are late first rounders/borderline 2nd rounds. Ragland probably, Rankin 2nd choice

I think Spence, Ok st and WR go in the second round.

Alexander CB probably goes in the first. Sidenote ive heard a lot of bad things about his tape lately. The main thing is, its not good and he benefited from good safety play and the best Dline in college.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

30, imo you listed guys who are late first rounders/borderline 2nd rounds. Ragland probably, Rankin 2nd choice.....

Alexander CB probably goes in the first. Sidenote ive heard a lot of bad things about his tape lately. The main thing is, its not good and he benefited from good safety play and the best Dline in college.

I could see all those guys being gone by 21...

Right about now is when I start tuning out or being really careful about what I read about any prospect. Its officially lying season in the draft process. Agents, front offices begin spewing all sorts of rhetoric to each other and especially to the media with the intent being to mask their true beliefs and sometimes the rhetoric is anywhere from a little misleading to purposefully deceptive and sometimes out right fabrications.

I've watched some Alexander tape and right off the bat I gotta say watching DB play on TV copy isn't the best way to assess DB play. But form what I've watched its good, very good. In man he can press, has quick feet, step for step mirror ability, confidence, good reaction to the ball, good route recognition. Like many college CBs you're not gonna confuse his tackling for a S, but that's most of them. His work in off coverage needs work but his base of ability on film is solid to my eye. I really, wish he ran CB numbers can really help in the comp to the other CBs in the class and from historical data. If Mack is isn't explosive? Lacks good speed, doesn't have decent 3-cone etc I move him down the board but still like him based on his tape.

The knock about surrounding talent can be applied to many prospects from top schools. Take Ragland for example if a draftnik wants to knock his production they could point to his NFL quality DL and schematic advantage playing in a Saban defense. But, Ragland still had to make those defensive calls, still had to make those tackles, still had to defend those passes.

[30gut]

2016 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock draft 3.0: Browns strike for Wentz


Pick No.21
WAS

Darron Lee--OLB--Ohio St.

Lee has the speed, instincts and play-making ability to be a difference maker from Day 1.

Pick No.

1

TEN


Laremy Tunsil

OT

Mississippi



A trade down would be nice for Tennessee, but I don't see that happening.




Pick No.

2

CLE


Carson Wentz

QB

North Dakota St.



Wentz has aced the Senior Bowl and the combine.




Pick No.

3

SD


Jalen Ramsey

CB

Florida St.



Ramsey moved around like a premier CB at the combine.




Pick No.

4

DAL


Joey Bosa

DE

Ohio St.



The Cowboys can't count on Randy Gregory, and Bosa will have an immediate impact.




Pick No.

5

JAC


Myles Jack

OLB

UCLA



The Jags need to get more explosive on defense, and Jack can lineup at just about any position on defense.




Pick No.

6

BAL


DeForest Buckner

DE

Oregon



Buckner has a rare combination of size/agility/motor and he's built to play in the AFC North.




Pick No.

7

SF


Jared Goff

QB

California



The 49ers can't afford to pass on a potential franchise QB in their own backyard.




Pick No.

8

MIA


Kevin Dodd

DE

Clemson



The Dolphins need to add some youth on the edge and Dodd has tremendous upside.




Pick No.

9

TB


Vernon Hargreaves

CB

Florida



The Bucs need to get more dynamic at this position and Hargreaves is a ball magnet.




Pick No.

10

NYG


Shaq Lawson

DE

Clemson



Lawson plays with great technique/effort and his production is outstanding.




Pick No.

11

CHI


Ronnie Stanley

OT

Notre Dame



Stanley is a Day 1 starting left tackle.




Pick No.

12

NO


Sheldon Rankins

DT

Louisville



Rankins will add some quickness to the Saints' defensive front.




Pick No.

13

PHI


Corey Coleman

WR

Baylor



The Eagles need more explosiveness at the WR spot and Coleman is a big-play machine.




Pick No.

14

OAK


Jack Conklin

OT

Michigan St.



Conklin proved has the skill set and demeanor to excel at multiple positions on the OL.




Pick No.

15

STL


Paxton Lynch

QB

Memphis



The Rams need to address the QB spot and while very raw, Lynch has a huge upside.




Pick No.

16

DET


Laquon Treadwell

WR

Mississippi



Treadwell isn't a burner, but I love his physical style of play and he'll be a double-digit TD producer very early in his career.




Pick No.

17

ATL


Leonard Floyd

OLB

Georgia



Floyd would team up with Vic Beasley to give the Falcons two fastballs coming off the edge.




Pick No.

18

IND


Taylor Decker

OT

Ohio St.



Keeping Andrew Luck upright has to be priority No. 1.




Pick No.

19

BUF


Jarran Reed

DT

Alabama



There are flashier DTs available here, but Reed is the most consistent and he brings a rugged playing style as well.




Pick No.

20

NYJ


Ezekiel Elliott

RB

Ohio St.



Elliott is clearly the top RB in this class and he will fit perfectly in this offense.




Pick No.21
WAS

Darron Lee--OLB--Ohio St.

Lee has the speed, instincts and play-making ability to be a difference maker from Day 1.


Pick No.

22

HOU


Will Fuller

WR

Notre Dame



There is a lot of buzz building around Fuller and I expect him to be picked in this range.




Pick No.

23

MIN


Josh Doctson

WR

TCU



The Vikings need more weapons on offense and Doctson turned some heads with his performance at the combine.




Pick No.

24

CIN


Reggie Ragland

ILB

Alabama



Ragland doesn't wow you with timed speed, but he plays plenty fast and can dominate against the run.




Pick No.

25

PIT


Noah Spence

DE

Eastern Kentucky



If Spence checks out off the field, this would be a tremendous value for the Steelers.




Pick No.

26

SEA


A'Shawn Robinson

DT

Alabama



Robinson is one the top interior defenders in the draft and he would fit perfectly in Seattle.




Pick No.

27

GB


Andrew Billings

NT

Baylor



I was very impressed with the athleticism Billings displayed at the combine.




Pick No.

28

KC


Robert Nkemdiche

DT

Mississippi



The Chiefs took a chance with their first-round pick last year (Marcus Peters) and it paid off. Nkemdiche has top-5 pick talent, but off-field issues will likely cause him to drop.




Pick No.

29

ARI


Mackensie Alexander

CB

Clemson



There are concerns about his speed and production, but Alexander is very athletic and tough.




Pick No.

30

CAR


Eli Apple

CB

Ohio St.



Apple had an excellent combine workout and alleviated any concerns about his speed.




Pick No.

31

DEN


Germain Ifedi

OG

Texas A&M



The Broncos need to address the OL and Ifedi has excellent size and versatility

[Alvin Walton]

Ragland, in a heart beat.

[30gut]

Reports saying Clemson players have a solid proday.
Mackenzie was timed ~4.41-4.51 and
Edge rushers looked good, timed well.
BJ Goodson solid workout and measurables.

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