Predict RGIII's next team

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Even I'm looking forward to Griffin being released. The anti-Griffin bias was tiresome.

Oh, just stop with the bullshit. The pro-Griffin bias is every bit as tiresome.

Quote me all the stats you want. I saw what I saw and what I saw weren't good.

Just take your RGIII Fathead poster and find a quiet room together.



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[30gut]

^^^Exactly....yawns...tiresome.

Draft, defense, FA normal conversation whatever but dare not to think Griffin sucks? Unacceptable the stats be damned! And positing a non-Griffin sucks position will likely be met with personal attacks.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 30gut

^^^Exactly....yawns...tiresome.

Draft, defense, FA normal conversation whatever but dare not to think Griffin sucks? Unacceptable the stats be damned! And positing a non-Griffin sucks position will likely be met with personal attacks.

It's fine to think Griffin doesn't suck. I don't think he is god awful at everything QB related. You can post your breakdowns and, believe me, I could post counters from credible sources. However, that discussion is long done. There are plenty of credible, factually/statistically supportable reasons for saying RGIII is simply not likely to succeed as an NFL QB. Do I hope he does? Yes. Based on the data, the breakdowns I've read, and what I have seen with my own eyes, do I believe he will? Nope. Hope he proves me wrong.

You're refusal to acknowledge his significant flaws and lack of progression is truly, truly tiresome. You think he doesn't suck? Great. You're entitled to that opinion. You have made the same points for the last year, quoting the same stats, and played the martyr when people say "You're wrong."


Done. Just. Done.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You're refusal to acknowledge his significant flaws and lack of progression is truly, truly tiresome.

And these mischaracterizations are tiresome. Not once have I said Griffin is a QB without flaws.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

And these mischaracterizations are tiresome. Not once have I said Griffin is a QB without flaws.

Your main argument in defending RGIII is that he was not given a fair chance to develop. But yet he was the starter in all training camps that he was healthy. He was forced in to being the starter in our last camp. Training camp and offseason is where most of the teaching happens for the starters. They get most of the reps. By contrast how many training camps did Kirk Cousins have as the undisputed starter? Yet KC developed RGIII did not.
RGII Started 36(?) regular season and playoff games.
KC has started 26(?).
Who was given more of a chance to succeed?