NFL Free Agency 2016

[Schneed10]

Out of 86 pro bowlers last year, only two were 2015 free agents.

You're getting solid players, not stars.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Out of 86 pro bowlers last year, only two were 2015 free agents.

You're getting solid players, not stars.

Patriots have been going to super bowls with solid players and not stars for years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Patriots have been going to super bowls with solid players and not stars for years.

Pretty sure Brady and Gronkowski are stars. But more to the point is that the Patriots pay there solid players like solid players not like superstars and the result of that is a better overall supporting cast. Overpaying for solid players leaves you in a place that history shows is unsustainable.

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[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Patriots have been going to super bowls with solid players and not stars for years.

You must not know much about the Patriots or have never heard of Tom Brady.

Junior Seau
Teddy Bruschi
Adam Viniateri
Vince Wilfork
Ty Law
Lawyer Milloy
Willie McGinest
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Asante Samuel
Mike Vrabel
Rob Gronkowski
Tom Brady

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

You must not know much about the Patriots or have never heard of Tom Brady.

Junior Seau
Teddy Bruschi
Adam Viniateri
Vince Wilfork
Ty Law
Lawyer Milloy
Willie McGinest
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Asante Samuel
Mike Vrabel
Rob Gronkowski
Tom Brady

Tom who?Tom is the super star and paid like it and Gronk is a star in my book but all the others on you list might have been stars or were stars at other teams when all were with the Patriots they were good solid players .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Tom who?Tom is the super star and paid like it and Gronk is a star in my book but all the others on you list might have been stars or were stars at other teams when all were with the Patriots they were good solid players .

but how many in that list were paid like superstars when first signing with the Pats.

Overpaying for solid players is still overpaying

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

but how many in that list were paid like superstars when first signing with the Pats.

Overpaying for solid players is still overpaying

Considering market value in the NFL keeps changing it's a hard question to answer also if the Patriots made it to or won a super bowl then I would argue that no one was "over paid".

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Considering market value in the NFL keeps changing it's a hard question to answer also if the Patriots made it to or won a super bowl then I would argue that no one was "over paid".

Market value is set at the time of purchase, so it's really not a hard question to answer.

Your second part is to argue that winning a superbowl makes overpayment irrelevant, and I could accept that thought (as most Redskins fans have been forced to several times in the 2000's), except that historically overpaying a player, or players, has not been a successful path to the Superbowl. There isn't one good example of a team overpaying across the board in free agency, and reaching the SB that year. However, there are myriads of examples of teams who have tried, only to find themselves weighted down with bad contracts and underperforming athletes.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Tom who?Tom is the super star and paid like it and Gronk is a star in my book but all the others on you list might have been stars or were stars at other teams when all were with the Patriots they were good solid players .

I see football history isn't your thing.

KTHXBYE

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Patriots have been going to super bowls with solid players and not stars for years.

You going to compare your QB to Tom Brady?

Please leave

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You going to compare your QB to Tom Brady?

Please leave

Where did I do that ,what post?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Where did I do that ,what post?

You have suggested that the players the Giants have signed are solid players and justified the overpayment of said solid players by asserting that the Pats have been going to Super Bowls with solid players.

Implicit in your assertion and essential to its accuracy, however, is that the Pats have been going to Super Bowls with solid players and Tom Brady.

So, your justification for overpaying solid players because the Pats went to several Super Bowls with solid players is a logical truth if and only if Eli Manning is equal to Tom Brady.

Solid Players + Tom Brady = Solid Players + Eli Manning.

(Solid Players + Tom Brady) - Solid Players= (Solid Players + Eli Manning) - Solid Players.

Tom Brady = Eli Manning.

Sorry, it just doesn't add up.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You have suggested that the players the Giants have signed are solid players and justified the overpayment of said solid players by asserting that the Pats have been going to Super Bowls with solid players.

Implicit in your assertion and essential to its accuracy, however, is that the Pats have been going to Super Bowls with solid players and Tom Brady.

So, your justification for overpaying solid players because the Pats went to several Super Bowls with solid players is a logical truth if and only if Eli Manning is equal to Tom Brady.

Solid Players + Tom Brady = Solid Players + Eli Manning.

(Solid Players + Tom Brady) - Solid Players= (Solid Players + Eli Manning) - Solid Players.

Tom Brady = Eli Manning.

Sorry, it just doesn't add up.

Nice try but there was no implication on my side of your theory.The assumption is all on you and others I made no such implication.
Actually the assumption of yours and others is that the Giants overpaid for the players they acquired while again that is an assumption on your part that can not be proven till the season is over and fully evaluated.
I will ask again what post did I compare Eli to Tom Brady,not what post do you assume I mean .