NFL Free Agency 2016

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by MTK

When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

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I did kind of say that wrong. Didnt mean that the team itself was good. I meant that they had some really good individual parts. Their OL was actually really good. DL was above average. Had a couple in the secondary that were real good although the unit itself wasnt great. Had the bongman as a receiver who was really good for a couple of years.

The main downfall was the QB position. They could have been a fringe playoff team with a good QB, possibly better. They couldnt get an average QB. They went for homeruns on QBs and whiffed every time. Weeden was a last ditch effort with some good players still there. Manziel was also but players were hitting FA and leaving as soon as they could at that point. Their drafts havent been good the last few years either.

Thats why I say a few years ago would have been different. I think the parts were much better then. Hue might be good for him, but he would be back on a below average team and hes not carrying an offense. I think the Browns will turn out bad for him unless they all of a sudden get much better outside of the QB position. Hes going to need that because if he goes there and starts, and another year 3 happens, hes either going to be dead or selling cars.

[hutch17]

Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.

Report: Browns expected to reach deal with RG3 today | ProFootballTalk

yup...Schefty reporting it as well. Oh well.

I think this is probably worst case for RG3.

Broncos and Jets both in desperate need of a QB and they were never serious about RG3. To me, that tells me a lot. Both playoff caliber teams said not even a chance.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.

Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.

I agree with everything you just posted! I would say there's less than a 50/50 chance Griffin is playing when the Browns face the 'skins.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.

It is not just poor play on the field, it is an ego the size of Texas and a mouth that he continues to talk out of both sides. Even the "QB desperate teams" realize it. The most telling is his working relationship with his last two coaches, dId not end well. That is hard to overlook when grading RGIII.