Redskins Training Camp '16

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

A player has to start off on PUP, can't go on it later on so as mentioned earlier it's probably a procedurally based move more than anything.

Agreed, and as was said, we want him to be a long term addition not a recurring injury plagued player. Let him heal and do the right rehab to get on the field. If it goes into the season then it will be a different discussion.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

A player has to start off on PUP, can't go on it later on so as mentioned earlier it's probably a procedurally based move more than anything.

If that's all it is then I'm good.

[Chico23231]

ESPN's 'First Take' will film live from Redskins training camp next Thursday - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Redskins XTRA

ESPN's "First Take," the morning show that pits two sports analysts against each other in a debate format, will film live from Redskins training camp in Richmond, Va., next Thursday, Aug. 4.

The show will film live from 10 a.m. to noon, and feature ESPN personalities Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What will you be watching this training camp...what position battle? Which rookie or free agent?

Who do you have as a sleeper to make the team?

And most important...and it may be a bit early...who is the man crush and your Training Camp Hero for 2016? The guy you will say..."OMG we just cut the a future hall-of-famer"

HTTR!!!

Here’s looking at camp:

Offense:
Not worried about the offense really. I expect the passing game to be the strength of the offense and team and expect them to be a top 15 unit overall.
RBs-My concern level isn't high for the run game because I don't expect much from the run game and I don't think this scheme really require nor facilitates a strong run game. In my view whatever we get form the running game I consider to be gravy. Jones should be better based on more experience, holding on to the ball and better blocking on the edge. If I’m Jones, I would be very nervous about Keith Marshall. ‘When healthy….dude is a stud….but when is he healthy?’

Center-how is with the starting unit, who rotates in (and in what order) and how they look
WRs/TEs-Not gonna be focused on them much because they're already loaded for bear. Will watch for TEs blocking the edge tho.

Doctson. He was my favorite receiver in the draft, interested in how thy use him and he looks against press, coming out of his breaks, gaining separation, confidence etc. I wonder if they’ll start phasing Garcon out if Doc is ready to roll.


Defense:
I’ll be most focused on this side of the ball. I’m concerned with the the front 7: run defense, pass rush and coverage. I think the secondary will be the best unit on defense by a wide margin followed by the starting OLBs/edge rush.
I might be alone in the thought that the DL took a step backwards going from Knighton to Golston and Hatcher to Paea/Reyes. Our interior pass rush was only average last year and Hatcher provided a lot of that rush. Now with the loss of Junior there isn’t anyone to pencil in that is expected to compensate for the loss of rush. DL is going to be key whether or not someone steps up at the NT spot and whether Paea can stay healthy and play like the player we expected when he signed. Baker is solid both in against the run and provides rush, Ricky Jean is a solid run stopper at DE the rest are question marks.
I’m not as high on Compton as most. He filled in decent for a back-up player but that’s exactly how I view a solid back-up. I don’t think he’s stout enough vs the run and imo the run defense was a major issue. Foster can thump and Riley when healthy get’s downhill with aggression.

My sleeper/one to watch in camp is Stehpen Daniels. When looking at Daniels on film he looks like a downhill thumper that relishes contact and isn’t shy about taking on a block. I couldn’t tell the difference between him and Ragland and in fact net-net I thought Daniels was the better player. If there is one player I expect to make a name for themselves in camp/preseason its Daniels.

I was very pumped for Su’a Cravens but hearing talk of him playing WILB dampens my enthusiasm for him. I want them to play him at SS. Let him get comfortable and find a home their and let him wreck havoc.

I expect a huge uptick in performance at FS going from Dash to Hall and I expect David Bruton to be a physical tone setter at SS. Amped up for Josh+Breeland those guys are going to be the strength of the defense. Hopefully we can generate enough pass rush that those guys can make plays.

I’m curious who is gonna man the NB/slot corner spot though.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Defense:
I’ll be most focused on this side of the ball. I’m concerned with the the front 7: run defense, pass rush and coverage. I think the secondary will be the best unit on defense by a wide margin followed by the starting OLBs/edge rush.
I might be alone in the thought that the DL took a step backwards going from Knighton to Golston and Hatcher to Paea/Reyes. Our interior pass rush was only average last year and Hatcher provided a lot of that rush. Now with the loss of Junior there isn’t anyone to pencil in that is expected to compensate for the loss of rush. DL is going to be key whether or not someone steps up at the NT spot and whether Paea can stay healthy and play like the player we expected when he signed. Baker is solid both in against the run and provides rush, Ricky Jean is a solid run stopper at DE the rest are question marks.
I’m not as high on Compton as most. He filled in decent for a back-up player but that’s exactly how I view a solid back-up. I don’t think he’s stout enough vs the run and imo the run defense was a major issue. Foster can thump and Riley when healthy get’s downhill with aggression.

Agreed.
I feel our DL will be just slightly weaker than last year, even though Knighton wasn't especially astonishing last year, to say the least...

But what I really want to know is when will Riley Jr be back? I'd feel more secure if we could rely on him at ILB cause Foster and Compton did good work there but we don't know how Su'a will adapt.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Agreed.
I feel our DL will be just slightly weaker than last year, even though Knighton wasn't especially astonishing last year, to say the least...

But what I really want to know is when will Riley Jr be back? I'd feel more secure if we could rely on him at ILB cause Foster and Compton did good work there but we don't know how Su'a will adapt.

Perry Riley is one of the more overrated players on the team.

He can't cover and has a really difficult time shedding blocks and getting to the ball.

His collisions with the blockers are just as epic as his steely gaze watching the ball carrier run past him.

Do you all believe he is a lock to make the roster with his cap number?

Perry Riley Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

He is making starter money and is likely to be a back up.

The best thing going for Riley to make the team isn't his talent, but rather the lack of experienced depth at the position.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Perry Riley is one of the more overrated players on the team.

He can't cover and has a really difficult time shedding blocks and getting to the ball.

His collisions with the blockers are just as epic as his steely gaze watching the ball carrier run past him.

Do you all believe he is a lock to make the roster with his cap number?

Perry Riley Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

He is making starter money and is likely to be a back up.

The best thing going for Riley to make the team isn't his talent, but rather the lack of experienced depth at the position.

You know, I'm looking to see what kind of impact Daniels and Spaight can make in camp. Can they pressure the starters of Compton and Foster? I believe it's a realistic possibility they can. Damn, I can't wait to get down to camp

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Perry Riley is one of the more overrated players on the team.

He can't cover and has a really difficult time shedding blocks and getting to the ball.

His collisions with the blockers are just as epic as his steely gaze watching the ball carrier run past him.

Do you all believe he is a lock to make the roster with his cap number?

Perry Riley Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

He is making starter money and is likely to be a back up.

The best thing going for Riley to make the team isn't his talent, but rather the lack of experienced depth at the position.

Honestly... I hadn't check the numbers. Yeah we can agree he's a bit overpaid, especially when you consider he wasn't far better than Foster and Compton. But I remember him making some plays and I feel like we don't have tons of depht at ILB.

[Chico23231]

Nickel Corner maybe the best competition in all of camp...good call.

Im worried about RB, cause we need to run the damn ball right this year. Pierre Thomas needs to be signed

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Nickel Corner maybe the best competition in all of camp...good call.

Im worried about RB, cause we need to run the damn ball right this year. Pierre Thomas needs to be signed

We are not going to be able to run the ball that well. We are weak at center and left guard. Lich pretty much gets thrown around by every nose tackle in the NFL. Not only that but what happens when Jones gets hurt? It's only a matter of time before he does. The strength is the QB, wr's and TE.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We are not going to be able to run the ball that well. We are weak at center and left guard. Lich pretty much gets thrown around by every nose tackle in the NFL. Not only that but what happens when Jones gets hurt? It's only a matter of time before he does. The strength is the QB, wr's and TE.

I hope your wrong because putting the weight of the offense on cousins vs a tougher schedule could be bad. I think McC wants to run the ball effectively and I think we will based on having better blocking with our TEs. This was a killer last year. Your right, kory was effing terrible last year...left guard run blocking took a hit when Lauvao went down. I think left guard will be better...Kory has a small chance to be decent.

I really think McC wants to run better.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We are not going to be able to run the ball that well. We are weak at center and left guard. Lich pretty much gets thrown around by every nose tackle in the NFL. Not only that but what happens when Jones gets hurt? It's only a matter of time before he does. The strength is the QB, wr's and TE.

I dont think the run game is going to be as terrible as some are predicting, I think Jones and Marshall will surprise people, in particularly Marshall

[Schneed10]

Pass rush is so crucial for this team. My eyes will be squarely on Preston Smith. How does he look against Trent?

He was said to look great in minicamp. If he gives Trent some trouble then I'll let myself start to get excited.

[skinsfaninok]

Doc will be fine, we are stacked at the WR pos and TE we will be ok

[skinsfan69]

The injury to Doc is concerning. He's had 6 weeks to get himself right and still can't practice. This seems like it's going to be an issue all season long.