Out Of These Players Who Will Step Up Ther Game

Daseal · 05-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Jacobs, Cartright and Wynn I expect to see upped performance out of!

squrrelco3 · 05-05-2004, 05:39 PM

I think Gardner will step it up...he's done a good job keeping his mouth shut over the past few years and just rolling with the punches...he's taken alot of heat, some of it unjustified, and he's been a very quite, show up to work, "lunchpail" player...Gibbs likes people like that and I think some of the flak he's taken will light a fire under him to get him going...he'll work well in the Joe Gibbs system.

Hogskin · 05-05-2004, 05:50 PM

McCants is a possession receiver like Art Monk. After the first minicamp and one more time since, Gibbs compared him favorably to Monk. I see that as a huge clue that McCants has a great shot at the #2 spot. In the unlikely event Gardner finally figures out how to stop dropping key passes, I STILL think McCants will have a good shot at the #2 spot. If not, he should be on the field in most formations as #3. Seems like it may come down to who will be on the field with Coles and McCants in 3-receiver sets - Gardner, Thrash, or Taylor. Wide Open. If Cooley performs as the staff hopes, he will handle almost all of the H-back situations. They already threw the HUGE h-back playbook at him to learn. I have not heard if McCants is studying the position at that level, but doubt it.

daddio3 · 05-06-2004, 07:56 PM

Let's hope it's Wynn & Upshaw. June 1 cuts won't provide a tremendous selection of D-linemen, many offenses we will face will feature very mobile QBs and the learning curve for rookies is about 3.5 seconds. My gut says, though, McCants (who has ants in his pants) will be a probowl type guy in a very short time with the kind of instruction he has available to him now.

SKINSnCANES · 05-06-2004, 01:29 AM

yea Champ never played well against Toomer, hes been beat big by him a bunch of times. We are definitly stacked at receiver this year. I wouldnt be to worried about the depth chart, if weve got that many skilled receivers then I say rotate them in and always have fresh legs out there. Honestly, with Portis in the back field, and with Cooley seeming like he has a lot of potential. Im not sure what defenses are going to be able to do to cover all of the weopens. Brunell might be better at QB for us this year, Ramsey doesnt seem really comfortable being able to sit back and find the open guy. Hell hes never been able to sit back so he always rushes throws even when he has time. the line will be better but with so much talent on the team it might be best to let the vet take us as far as he can

OaklandSkinz · 05-06-2004, 04:44 PM

I'm with DaSeal on this one.... Wynn i expect to step up big time(break-out year maybe) Jacobs looks like he's doing a whole lot better too.. and with McCant's, with the chance he could step up (as with Cloman if he doesn't get slept on like last year, these are guys who can contribute).

OaklandSkinz · 05-06-2004, 04:51 PM

Oh, and Joe...I hope you're right about Cloman man.. I'm definitely pulling for him to make the Regular season roster this year.. he deserves it. Training Camp and Pre-Season, expect Cloman to give em H-E-Double Hockey Sticks baby!!!

Daseal · 05-06-2004, 05:15 PM

I remember watching Cloman at training camp last year just light it up. I had no idea why he didn't make the team.

Even Champ Bailey said Taylor Jacobs could be the best receiver the skin's have. He was a steal in the 2nd when we got him. I think we'll see part of that over the next season or two.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-06-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I remember watching Cloman at training camp last year just light it up. I had no idea why he didn't make the team.

Even Champ Bailey said Taylor Jacobs could be the best receiver the skin's have. He was a steal in the 2nd when we got him. I think we'll see part of that over the next season or two.

that's pretty high praise coming from not only one of the best cbs in the league, but the guy who was matched up against coles most of last summer during camp. i know i'm pulling for him to tear it up this season. then we can actually have three things to be thankful of spurrier for: all the ex-jet signings last year, picking jacobs in the 2nd round, and allowing us to get sean taylor.

Redskins8588 · 05-06-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

that's pretty high praise coming from not only one of the best cbs in the league, but the guy who was matched up against coles most of last summer during camp. i know i'm pulling for him to tear it up this season. then we can actually have three things to be thankful of spurrier for: all the ex-jet signings last year, picking jacobs in the 2nd round, and allowing us to get sean taylor.

There is actually four things to be thankful of Spurrier for, everything you mentioned plus quitting for the return of Gibbs!!!!!!!!

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-06-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

There is actually four things to be thankful of Spurrier for, everything you mentioned plus quitting for the return of Gibbs!!!!!!!!

true, things got so bad that snyder knew there was only one man who could fix the errors of recent redskins history and he used his pocketbook to bring home the legend himself.

SeasonTicketHolder · 05-06-2004, 06:09 PM

Darnerian McCants will make the most progress if he's given the opportunity to be a number 2 receiver next to Coles. We all know McCants can make the big catches, having something like 6 tds last year. The only question is whether he can make plays throughout the game, which I think he can.

SKINSnCANES · 05-06-2004, 09:07 PM

I dotn see Wynn or Upshaw being anything better than solid players. They are getting kinda old to all of a sudden have some new A game that they can bring. That, and both or them arent going to play, only one of them will. My guess is Wynn. I wouldnt be surprised if one of them is one next month.

Most improved next year might be Ramsey, if he gets a chance.

Daseal · 05-06-2004, 10:18 PM

It's most improved, not super star. I feel Wynn will be a real force on the line this year because we have respectable guys everywhere. That's just my opinion though.

SKINSnCANES · 05-06-2004, 10:24 PM

I hope we can get one more guy after june 1st. Right now Griffin MIGHT warrant a double team, but in general our line can be matched against. One more guy will cause them to have to be more careful, and then when Lavar and Taylor comablitzing then we take the advantage.

05-06-2004, 01:29 AM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	yea Champ never played well against Toomer, hes been beat big by him a bunch of times. We are definitly stacked at receiver this year. I wouldnt be to worried about the depth chart, if weve got that many skilled receivers then I say rotate them in and always have fresh legs out there. Honestly, with Portis in the back field, and with Cooley seeming like he has a lot of potential. Im not sure what defenses are going to be able to do to cover all of the weopens. Brunell might be better at QB for us this year, Ramsey doesnt seem really comfortable being able to sit back and find the open guy. Hell hes never been able to sit back so he always rushes throws even when he has time. the line will be better but with so much talent on the team it might be best to let the vet take us as far as he can __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-06-2004, 04:44 PM	#6
OaklandSkinz Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 19	I'm with DaSeal on this one.... Wynn i expect to step up big time(break-out year maybe) Jacobs looks like he's doing a whole lot better too.. and with McCant's, with the chance he could step up (as with Cloman if he doesn't get slept on like last year, these are guys who can contribute). Last edited by OaklandSkinz; 05-06-2004 at 04:46 PM. Reason: mispelling

05-06-2004, 09:07 PM	#13
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	I dotn see Wynn or Upshaw being anything better than solid players. They are getting kinda old to all of a sudden have some new A game that they can bring. That, and both or them arent going to play, only one of them will. My guess is Wynn. I wouldnt be surprised if one of them is one next month. Most improved next year might be Ramsey, if he gets a chance. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-06-2004, 10:24 PM	#15
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	I hope we can get one more guy after june 1st. Right now Griffin MIGHT warrant a double team, but in general our line can be matched against. One more guy will cause them to have to be more careful, and then when Lavar and Taylor comablitzing then we take the advantage. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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05-05-2004, 04:55 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Jacobs, Cartright and Wynn I expect to see upped performance out of!

05-05-2004, 05:39 PM	#2
squrrelco3 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norfolk Age: 51 Posts: 429	I think Gardner will step it up...he's done a good job keeping his mouth shut over the past few years and just rolling with the punches...he's taken alot of heat, some of it unjustified, and he's been a very quite, show up to work, "lunchpail" player...Gibbs likes people like that and I think some of the flak he's taken will light a fire under him to get him going...he'll work well in the Joe Gibbs system.

05-05-2004, 05:50 PM	#3
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 85 Posts: 659	McCants is a possession receiver like Art Monk. After the first minicamp and one more time since, Gibbs compared him favorably to Monk. I see that as a huge clue that McCants has a great shot at the #2 spot. In the unlikely event Gardner finally figures out how to stop dropping key passes, I STILL think McCants will have a good shot at the #2 spot. If not, he should be on the field in most formations as #3. Seems like it may come down to who will be on the field with Coles and McCants in 3-receiver sets - Gardner, Thrash, or Taylor. Wide Open. If Cooley performs as the staff hopes, he will handle almost all of the H-back situations. They already threw the HUGE h-back playbook at him to learn. I have not heard if McCants is studying the position at that level, but doubt it.

05-06-2004, 07:56 PM	#4
daddio3 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Bern, NC Age: 57 Posts: 8	Let's hope it's Wynn & Upshaw. June 1 cuts won't provide a tremendous selection of D-linemen, many offenses we will face will feature very mobile QBs and the learning curve for rookies is about 3.5 seconds. My gut says, though, McCants (who has ants in his pants) will be a probowl type guy in a very short time with the kind of instruction he has available to him now.

05-06-2004, 04:51 PM	#7
OaklandSkinz Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 19	Oh, and Joe...I hope you're right about Cloman man.. I'm definitely pulling for him to make the Regular season roster this year.. he deserves it. Training Camp and Pre-Season, expect Cloman to give em H-E-Double Hockey Sticks baby!!!

05-06-2004, 05:15 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	I remember watching Cloman at training camp last year just light it up. I had no idea why he didn't make the team. Even Champ Bailey said Taylor Jacobs could be the best receiver the skin's have. He was a steal in the 2nd when we got him. I think we'll see part of that over the next season or two.

05-06-2004, 06:09 PM	#12
SeasonTicketHolder Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 549	Darnerian McCants will make the most progress if he's given the opportunity to be a number 2 receiver next to Coles. We all know McCants can make the big catches, having something like 6 tds last year. The only question is whether he can make plays throughout the game, which I think he can.

05-06-2004, 10:18 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	It's most improved, not super star. I feel Wynn will be a real force on the line this year because we have respectable guys everywhere. That's just my opinion though.

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