Skins-Cowboys Post Game Thread

[Coff]

Tough loss. Always easy to point out QB mistakes the day after; and Cousins certainly had a lot of mistakes. That being said, we have a QB who is consistently moving the ball up and down the field. Every time the offense takes the field, I'm fairly confident the Redskins will score. That's the difference between Kirk and the long list of QBs we've had in the past. Hopefully he'll settle down and start making the plays we saw him making last year. A win next week and we're right back in the division discussion.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Coff

Tough loss. Always easy to point out QB mistakes the day after; and Cousins certainly had a lot of mistakes. That being said, we have a QB who is consistently moving the ball up and down the field. Every time the offense takes the field, I'm fairly confident the Redskins will score. That's the difference between Kirk and the long list of QBs we've had in the past. Hopefully he'll settle down and start making the plays we saw him making last year. A win next week and we're right back in the division discussion.

I agree, KC made a lot of mistakes and IMO plays too "tight" but they scored enough points to win yesterday. 23 points would have won in ten of yesterday's games but the D cant stop anything and that's going to make "easy" games difficult and "hard" games impossible.

[skinsfan69]

The Jones thing is puzzling. Do these stupid ass coaches know the hell is going on during the game? Jones should have been right back on the field and they should have went right back to him. As bad as Joe Barry is, (he is nothing but horse feces when it comes to running a defense) I don't understand the rotation there. It made no sense what so ever. If they want to pass the ball so much then give him a screen. If I were Snyder I'd be all up in Gruden's grill this morning.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Jones thing is puzzling. Do these stupid ass coaches know the hell is going on during the game? Jones should have been right back on the field and they should have went right back to him. As bad as Joe Barry is, (he is nothing but horse feces when it comes to running a defense) I don't understand the rotation there. It made no sense what so ever. If they want to pass the ball so much then give him a screen. If I were Snyder I'd be all up in Gruden's grill this morning.

I'm not normally a fan of owner interference but in this case, yeah. Somebody needs to come down on Gruden because he's doing a fucking shitty job.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm not normally a fan of owner interference but in this case, yeah. Somebody needs to come down on Gruden because he's doing a fucking shitty job.

I agree, the Skins are not a well coached team at this point. Way too many mistakes that IMO should have been worked out in training camp/pre-season.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Jones thing is puzzling. Do these stupid ass coaches know the hell is going on during the game? Jones should have been right back on the field and they should have went right back to him. As bad as Joe Barry is, (he is nothing but horse feces when it comes to running a defense) I don't understand the rotation there. It made no sense what so ever. If they want to pass the ball so much then give him a screen. If I were Snyder I'd be all up in Gruden's grill this morning.

Chris Thompson is nice as a change of pace back when Jones is struggling, but to replace Jones right when he gets some momentum is just plain ignorant. Same with calling back to back fades from the 5 yard line, and not trying to pound it in with Jones. Very soft play calling, IMO.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Chris Thompson is nice as a change of pace back when Jones is struggling, but to replace Jones right when he gets some momentum is just plain ignorant. Same with calling back to back fades from the 5 yard line, and not trying to pound it in with Jones. Very soft play calling, IMO.

Those two fades were just despicable play calls. If you want to do it once, fine. But fucking twice? You have to give Jones at least one carry there. Call a shovel pass or a draw, but give him the damn ball once.

[Schneed10]

When your best chance to win is to put it all on the arm of a QB that shows nerves and in the past has shown a lack of mental fortitude to bounce back after interceptions, then that's an indictment of your coaching staff.

I'm trying to figure out which area our staff has helped our team play above their talent level and I'm struggling to think of one.

Defense, don't get me started. But even offense. McVay has had decent playcalling games in the past, but it's pretty easy to call plays when you have Reed, Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, and good tackles. The constant fade calls yesterday show a lack of creativity. And the running game was working OK yesterday. Why we ended up so unbalanced is unacceptable.

In what way is this staff making us better?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

When your best chance to win is to put it all on the arm of a QB that shows nerves and in the past has shown a lack of mental fortitude to bounce back after interceptions, then that's an indictment of your coaching staff.

I'm trying to figure out which area our staff has helped our team play above their talent level and I'm struggling to think of one.

Defense, don't get me started. But even offense. McVay has had decent playcalling games in the past, but it's pretty easy to call plays when you have Reed, Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, and good tackles. The constant fade calls yesterday show a lack of creativity. And the running game was working OK yesterday. Why we ended up so unbalanced is unacceptable.

In what way is this staff making us better?

the qb who once took a knee instead of spiking it.

and the oc who called 3 pass plays inside the 10 after jones had already scored a rushing td from 14 yards out.

[Chico23231]

Reyes, our first D-Line free agent signing, inactive yesterday? wow

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Reyes, our first D-Line free agent signing, inactive yesterday? wow

i thought he was injured?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by los panda

i thought he was injured?

ohhh didn't know that. well we will need him going forward. my guess is Golsen gonna miss some time.


Couple positives from individual performances:

Doctson with the big play

Cravens coming in and making an impact

I though Trent Murphy was big in the second half...man, wouldn't be great if he put it together. He flew around tryon Smith on the one play.

Matt Jones, I thought he looked great yesterday.

Our Oline played well....sans Kory on the false starts.

[los panda]

i'm really only mad at those 3 pass calls in a row inside the 10, everything else was fine by me.

we play in a shit division, the sky is not falling.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by los panda

i'm really only mad at those 3 pass calls in a row inside the 10, everything else was fine by me.

we play in a shit division, the sky is not falling.

I guess. But at this point how can you project that this staff will ever outfox a playoff team?

Just ask yourself: the Redskins are in the playoffs, they're playing Green Bay or Minnesota or Carolina or Arizona. Do you think Jay Gruden and his staff have it in them to out-gameplan and outcoach any of these staffs:

- Bruce Arians and the Cardinals
- Mike McCarthy and the Pack
- Ron Rivera and the Panthers
- Mike Zimmer and the Vikes

I can't see it happening. They're too reactionary, never ahead of the other team.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I guess. But at this point how can you project that this staff will ever outfox a playoff team?

Just ask yourself: the Redskins are in the playoffs, they're playing Green Bay or Minnesota or Carolina or Arizona. Do you think Jay Gruden and his staff have it in them to out-gameplan and outcoach any of these staffs:

- Bruce Arians and the Cardinals
- Mike McCarthy and the Pack
- Ron Rivera and the Panthers
- Mike Zimmer and the Vikes

I can't see it happening. They're too reactionary, never ahead of the other team.

it's hard to envision but it's not impossible. still very early in the season, plenty of time to figure out how to best utilize the pieces we have.