Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

The Browns had 70+ yards of pass interference when covering DJax.

Part of the shitty tackling is caused by them trying to strip the ball.

Good poibt on Djax.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I'll focus on the negatives:

Shitty tackling (lack of)
Lack of a run D up the middle (pathetic)
Josh Norman 1st half
Cousins holding onto the ball again resulting in a sack and not taking advantage of the turnover.
Where was Djax?
Brutton
Getting tired of Barry not adjusting (if we would have lost, I would have fired his ass and promote Fewell or Manusky as DC)

1) Do you think part of that bad 1st half by Norman was on him recovering for illness this week? He really didn't seem a 100% to me. On The Pryor TD he got safety help and was outrun. I mean when I get sick I'm not well for a few days, I know I'm not a professional athlete, but this is not something you can train.

Anyway, he showed he was a great player during the 2nd half, and I love his tackling. For a high paid CB, he's not shying away from contact at all.

2) I'm really high on this O-line.

3) Am I the only one thinking we miss Keenan Robinson ? Compton might be a great teammate and leader... but he's not strong enough for the position IMO. Foster was the only one tackling properly but he's not elite.

4) I'm really high on this O-line.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I'll focus on the negatives:

Shitty tackling (lack of)
Lack of a run D up the middle (pathetic)
Josh Norman 1st half
Cousins holding onto the ball again resulting in a sack and not taking advantage of the turnover.
Where was Djax?
Brutton
Getting tired of Barry not adjusting (if we would have lost, I would have fired his ass and promote Fewell or Manusky as DC)

I agree with most everything except for the criticism of Djax, his play resulted in almost 80 yard worth of PI and at least the first one would have been a catch and touchdown. It doesn't show on the stats sheet but he was huge and needs to be resigned long term.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

2 weeks ago, we were all talking about how Kirk can't work off schedule. He never held the ball long enough to make unscripted plays. He even commented in his pressure how taking a sack sometimes would be better then forcing a ball into coverage aka Dallas game.



Now..He's using his feet, making things happen with his feet and will take a few more sacks in the process. Yet, now people complain he's not getting rid of the ball.



He's getting their folks. He was able to deliver on a few unscripted plays today in just a few weeks of focusing on it to counter defenses.

Well you have to admit that the main play in question when he was running to the sidelines, and saw the defender chasing him was bad. I think 6-7 seconds had ticked off? He was running out of bounds for a loss anyway. You have to have to throw the ball away there. Not sure what other complaints there were about holding the ball.
Kirk was much better today keeping plays alive though. It was so refreshing to see. He is trending up. Got no complaints currently with KC.

[Evilgrin]

Austin Reiter > any of our interior DL

[OmahaRedskins]

Ziggy Hood 1 Austin Reiter 0

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[TheMalcolmConnection]

I looked at this one close and Reiter was not great st all. The rest of the Browns line is pretty good but Reiter got worked.

[skinsfaninok]

djax made 2 huge plays without even catching the ball

[skinsfan69]

Defense is pure garbage but they are getting turnovers....

[skinsfaninok]

yeah we cant stop anyone but as long as we get some TOs a couple a game will go a long way

[Chico23231]

No 1 thing we can do to improve our run defense is tackle. cleaning up missed tackles needs to be address immediately. Also I'd bench bruton and play duke at ss.

[DYoungJelly]

The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am in the play calling.

I was just sitting here remembering how pissed I was at half time.

Initially, they show a very balanced approach and the offense was humming. Our opening drive was 10 min or so.

The Oline was clicking, and Jones was running as hard as he ever had.

And then McVay, Gruden, or whoever (Cooley says McVay calls the plays, but Gruden has to have a big influence) start going 5 wide with empty sets we stall, eat very little clock, and our defense is on the field for an eternity.

1. If running is working why go away from it? They came back to it at the end. The Patriots and us are apples and oranges. They find a weakness and exploit it till they can't anymore like calling the same play 5 times in a row. They force teams to play in ways they don't want to. We are allergic to success and go away from it on our own. The same BS explanation of the fades will no doubt be put forward. "We saw matchups we liked" The offense was walking it down the field with ease so obviously there were match up advantages happening when the oline and Jones were kicking their butts.

2. Our defense looked like pure crap in the 1st half. I don't see how Jay could have any confidence they could come up with a stop after that 1st half. The turnovers are great but really unpredictable. Why wouldn't Jay and/or Mcvay call plays in a balanced way to eat the clock and protect the defense, especially since Cleveland looked clueless at stopping it?

It's like they outsmart themselves.

Jesus.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am in the play calling.

I was just sitting here remembering how pissed I was at half time.

Initially, they show a very balanced approach and the offense was humming. Our opening drive was 10 min or so.

The Oline was clicking, and Jones was running as hard as he ever had.

And then McVay, Gruden, or whoever (Cooley says McVay calls the plays, but Gruden has to have a big influence) start going 5 wide with empty sets we stall, eat very little clock, and our defense is on the field for an eternity.

1. If running is working why go away from it? They came back to it at the end. The Patriots and us are apples and oranges. They find a weakness and exploit it till they can't anymore like calling the same play 5 times in a row. They force teams to play in ways they don't want to. We are allergic to success and go away from it on our own. The same BS explanation of the fades will no doubt be put forward. "We saw matchups we liked" The offense was walking it down the field with ease so obviously there were match up advantages happening when the oline and Jones were kicking their butts.

2. Our defense looked like pure crap in the 1st half. I don't see how Jay could have any confidence they could come up with a stop after that 1st half. The turnovers are great but really unpredictable. Why wouldn't Jay and/or Mcvay call plays in a balanced way to eat the clock and protect the defense, especially since Cleveland looked clueless at stopping it?

It's like they outsmart themselves.

Jesus.

I think they may become more balanced now that we have, IMHO, a bigger and more powerful OL group with Arie at LG and Long at C. They moved people today.

[KI Skins Fan]

I hope all the pessimists here will forgive me for believing that we can win the division. I believe that some of you are over-estimating our competitors and under-estimating our own team. We have many strengths as a team and we can improve some of our weaknesses during the season.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I hope all the pessimists here will forgive me for believing that we can win the division. I believe that some of you are over-estimating our competitors and under-estimating our own team. We have many strengths as a team and we can improve some of our weaknesses during the season.

I underestimate no one, I knew the Browns would be tough. If anything Pryor and Crowell are under appreciated, I was very impressed with those 2.