Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 08:55 AM

Saying that we can't win the East makes no sense to me, it all comes down to our division games. We still get the Cowboys and Giants once more each, and we still have the Eagles twice.

Eagles look pretty good but I think it's a matter of time until someone exposes their horizontal passing game, all the screens and short out routes. A team with real corners is going to get up in their face and bring the safeties into the box and dare weak ass Agholor and Dorial Green Beckham to win. The defense is fierce, though.

We had Dallas routed if not for the 3 missed TD passes by Cousins. He's playing better now.

And the battle with the Giants was so close, we forced the turnovers when we needed to. We can beat them again, especially at home.

Don't get down, there's lots of time remaining.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-03-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Saying that we can't win the East makes no sense to me, it all comes down to our division games. We still get the Cowboys and Giants once more each, and we still have the Eagles twice.

Eagles look pretty good but I think it's a matter of time until someone exposes their horizontal passing game, all the screens and short out routes. A team with real corners is going to get up in their face and bring the safeties into the box and dare weak ass Agholor and Dorial Green Beckham to win. The defense is fierce, though.

We had Dallas routed if not for the 3 missed TD passes by Cousins. He's playing better now.

And the battle with the Giants was so close, we forced the turnovers when we needed to. We can beat them again, especially at home.

Don't get down, there's lots of time remaining.

I agree 100%. BUT I am concerned about the defense. If the turnovers don't keep coming, then the team is in trouble...That being said, if the offense continues to improve, and they are able to score a higher percentage of TDs compared to FGs in the red zone, then they have a chance to hang with just about anybody.

How about that NFC East by the way - one quarter of the season is in the books, and it's the only division that does not have a team with a losing record. Is the NFC East back or is it too early to tell?

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree 100%. BUT I am concerned about the defense. If the turnovers don't keep coming, then the team is in trouble...That being said, if the offense continues to improve, and they are able to score a higher percentage of TDs compared to FGs in the red zone, then they have a chance to hang with just about anybody.

How about that NFC East by the way - one quarter of the season is in the books, and it's the only division that does not have a team with a losing record. Is the NFC East back or is it too early to tell?

That's kind of how I look at it. Think about the things that are sustainable, and what isn't. Is this line blocking well, and does it figure to continue? I think so. Are the receivers getting open and do they figure to continue? I think so. Is Cousins delivering on time and on target? First two games no, but against NYG and Cleveland he's been back to his normal self, which includes the once-per-game brain fart but otherwise on point.

The defense probably will not take the ball away at this rate. But I also don't think they'll tackle this poorly again, and I don't think they'll continue to give up 3rd downs at a 57% clip (NFL average is 37% and the next worst behind the Redskins is the Lions at 47%).

I do think our division is much better than it's given credit for, I've thought that all along. There was a lot of improvement in the offseason.

Coff · 10-03-2016, 10:06 AM

Hard to imagine the defense could have looked worse. Against a terrible team with a third string quarterback, the defense managed to surrender just shy of 400 yards. Crowell and Johnson averaged 6.9 yards per carry over 24 carries. There aren't words to explain how bad that is. The Browns coverted two-thirds of third downs, and how many of those were third-and-long?

It is me or does this team blitz less on third and long than just about any defense you've ever seen? And what's the point of dropping every back into coverage if the opponent is going to covert anyway?

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 11:01 AM

The maddening part is the defense doesn't seem to learn from its mistakes. They continue to give too much cushion and free run on third downs. Get up in the receivers' face and challenge them already.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-03-2016, 11:20 AM

The Browns aren't the garbage team on offense everyone is acting like they are.

In run blocking/pass pro, I believe at least three of their offensive linemen rank in the top ten. Reiter was owned yesterday, but you have a future HOFer (maybe) in Long and two other great blockers. Crowell is also a BEAST of a back.

Kessler also took what the defense gave him. Reminded me a lot of a less mobile Dak.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-03-2016, 11:21 AM

The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 12:10 PM

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The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.

That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.

skinsfaninok · 10-03-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.

How about Trent Murphy?? he is 6th in the league in sacks and on pace for 16! Thats crazy

Chico23231 · 10-03-2016, 01:23 PM

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How about Trent Murphy?? he is 6th in the league in sacks and on pace for 16! Thats crazy

He's forced 2 fumbles too. Pretty gud

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-03-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.

Have we seen much of a Kerrigan/Murphy package? With Smith not lighting it up, I wonder how that would look considering Murphy has been doing really well with that extra weight. I know he lost some, but he still looks huge.

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 01:56 PM

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Have we seen much of a Kerrigan/Murphy package? With Smith not lighting it up, I wonder how that would look considering Murphy has been doing really well with that extra weight. I know he lost some, but he still looks huge.

I think the key is getting all three of them on the field in nickel situations.

skinsfaninok · 10-03-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.

We need to bring Sua more, he's a playmaker period. Norman never needs to blitz because he's literally the only guy that can cover... Where has smith been?? Huge surprise so far, and not a good one. Hopefully RK and Bree will be back

MTK · 10-03-2016, 01:17 PM

Smith will get it going at some point.

Schneed10 · 10-03-2016, 01:59 PM

One thing I'm going to throw out there as a glimmer of hope for our team, in general. I think our depth is better than most NFL teams. The further you go into the season the more injuries and the more you have to dip into your bench, even bring guys up from the practice squad to play a role.

We have a few impact guys, and we'd like our starters to be better in a couple spots. But the depth on the offensive line, at WR, and in the secondary is very good.

You never know, it's depth like this that can help you pull out a game you weren't supposed to win.

10-03-2016, 08:55 AM	#1
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk Saying that we can't win the East makes no sense to me, it all comes down to our division games. We still get the Cowboys and Giants once more each, and we still have the Eagles twice. Eagles look pretty good but I think it's a matter of time until someone exposes their horizontal passing game, all the screens and short out routes. A team with real corners is going to get up in their face and bring the safeties into the box and dare weak ass Agholor and Dorial Green Beckham to win. The defense is fierce, though. We had Dallas routed if not for the 3 missed TD passes by Cousins. He's playing better now. And the battle with the Giants was so close, we forced the turnovers when we needed to. We can beat them again, especially at home. Don't get down, there's lots of time remaining. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

10-03-2016, 10:06 AM	#4
Coff Impact Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Halfmoon, NY Posts: 688	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk Hard to imagine the defense could have looked worse. Against a terrible team with a third string quarterback, the defense managed to surrender just shy of 400 yards. Crowell and Johnson averaged 6.9 yards per carry over 24 carries. There aren't words to explain how bad that is. The Browns coverted two-thirds of third downs, and how many of those were third-and-long? It is me or does this team blitz less on third and long than just about any defense you've ever seen? And what's the point of dropping every back into coverage if the opponent is going to covert anyway?

10-03-2016, 11:01 AM	#5
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk The maddening part is the defense doesn't seem to learn from its mistakes. They continue to give too much cushion and free run on third downs. Get up in the receivers' face and challenge them already. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

10-03-2016, 11:20 AM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk The Browns aren't the garbage team on offense everyone is acting like they are. In run blocking/pass pro, I believe at least three of their offensive linemen rank in the top ten. Reiter was owned yesterday, but you have a future HOFer (maybe) in Long and two other great blockers. Crowell is also a BEAST of a back. Kessler also took what the defense gave him. Reminded me a lot of a less mobile Dak. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-03-2016, 11:21 AM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-03-2016, 01:17 PM	#14
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk Smith will get it going at some point. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-03-2016, 01:59 PM	#15
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Redskins 31 Browns 20 post game talk One thing I'm going to throw out there as a glimmer of hope for our team, in general. I think our depth is better than most NFL teams. The further you go into the season the more injuries and the more you have to dip into your bench, even bring guys up from the practice squad to play a role. We have a few impact guys, and we'd like our starters to be better in a couple spots. But the depth on the offensive line, at WR, and in the secondary is very good. You never know, it's depth like this that can help you pull out a game you weren't supposed to win. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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