Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Oh man. Hoyer has never sniffed a year like KC had in 2015. If you put Hoyer on this team he would still not.

No he hasn't. And I think KC is the better QB, but they're in the same neighborhood. If you put Hoyer in this offense, with these skill players I think their numbers would be similar.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No he hasn't. And I think KC is the better QB, but they're in the same neighborhood. If you put Hoyer in this offense, with these skill players I think their numbers would be similar.

These skill players AND no run game AND no defense....

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

These skill players AND no run game AND no defense....

Well you can't just say no defense. They've been giving up yards and all but they have been taking the ball away and giving it back to the offense. And yesterday the defense was outstanding.

But again, I think KC is a better than Hoyer. No argument there. But I just don't think we're talking about a huge difference between the two.

I look at the Texans and they flipped out cause Hoyer shit the bed during that playoff loss. They panicked, completely overpaid for an unknown guy. Can you say that Brock is really that much better than Hoyer? I just don't see that much of a difference.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you can't just say no defense. They've been giving up yards and all but they have been taking the ball away and giving it back to the offense. And yesterday the defense was outstanding.



But again, I think KC is a better than Hoyer. No argument there. But I just don't think we're talking about a huge difference between the two.



I look at the Texans and they flipped out cause Hoyer shit the bed during that playoff loss. They panicked, completely overpaid for an unknown guy. Can you say that Brock is really that much better than Hoyer? I just don't see that much of a difference.

I was referring to our defense since KC took over last season. Hardly a good defense...at all. Ill give the Ravens the same pass as the Skins. Their playcalling sucked. Bye Trestman. The weather was bad.

Edit: I would not trade Kirk for Brock or Hoyer. Not now anyway.

[NC_Skins]

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

This this and this,that's all I'm saying.No hard on for Hoyer,no dislike for Cousins.If his inconsistent play continues he does not deserve and should not get the big extension.Thank you skinsfan69 for seeing my point.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

This this and this,that's all I'm saying.No hard on for Hoyer,no dislike for Cousins.If his inconsistent play continues he does not deserve and should not get the big extension.Thank you skinsfan69 for seeing my point.

Cousins can only improve, but i do believe we 100% know what we have with him on a "typical day" - that is at least one interception a game, and at his worst moments, 2 or 3 INTS in a game. But he also throws a lot of touchdowns too. Maybe a poor man's Brett Favre?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Cousins can only improve, but i do believe we 100% know what we have with him on a "typical day" - that is at least one interception a game, and at his worst moments, 2 or 3 INTS in a game. But he also throws a lot of touchdowns too. Maybe a poor man's Brett Favre?

I feel Like more of a poor mans brees

[jamf]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

Are you guys seriously asking for a low rent qb?
17 QBs are scheduled to make more than $17mil next year.
KC isn't an elite QB but he isn't middle of the pack either.
he will get around $20mil next year.

IMO KC is the best redskins QB since Brad Johnson.
Becareful of what you wish for; We might be able to get Jeff George v2.0(Cutler) on the cheap next year.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by jamf

Are you guys seriously asking for a low rent qb?
17 QBs are scheduled to make more than $17mil next year.
KC isn't an elite QB but he isn't middle of the pack either.
he will get around $20mil next year.

IMO KC is the best redskins QB since Brad Johnson.
Becareful of what you wish for; We might be able to get Jeff George v2.0(Cutler) on the cheap next year.

For some reason as soon as I read about how they were most likely going to move on from Cutler, i thought about the skins going after him. I remember how close we came to getting him in 2008, and back then, i was actually pretty excited....

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

Biggest issue with this philosophy is assuming Scot is going to spend 18 million on free agency for defense. He's been very adamant about building in the draft. You won't be spending 19 million on a few draft picks.

Kirk fits the offense, runs it efficiently to win. You are not going to have a rookie or Colt McCoy run your offense while you try to build the defense. Especially when you have a guy who is winning games now while the defense is poor at best.

You try to win games now in the NFL. There is no "rebuilding" anymore.

Also, I woukd like to add. Please stop referencing it as 19 million dollar contract. The contract doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is how much cap percentage is used on the QB position on the Redskins roster. Scot most likely won't spend more then 12% of our cap on the QB, since that is the league avg.

Biggest issue with the defense is we have only spent a third of our cap on it. A third of that is on the Dline.

Scot will build through the draft. It's not coincidence they are not signing Phil Taylor or Pot Roast after workout today's and giving Loannidis 65% of the snaps against the Ravens. They want to see what they got.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Biggest issue with this philosophy is assuming Scot is going to spend 18 million on free agency for defense. He's been very adamant about building in the draft. You won't be spending 19 million on a few draft picks.

Kirk fits the offense, runs it efficiently to win. You are not going to have a rookie or Colt McCoy run your offense while you try to build the defense. Especially when you have a guy who is winning games now while the defense is poor at best.

You try to win games now in the NFL. There is no "rebuilding" anymore.

Also, I woukd like to add. Please stop referencing it as 19 million dollar contract. The contract doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is how much cap percentage is used on the QB position on the Redskins roster. Scot most likely won't spend more then 12% of our cap on the QB, since that is the league avg.

Biggest issue with the defense is we have only spent a third of our cap on it. A third of that is on the Dline.

Scot will build through the draft. It's not coincidence they are not signing Phil Taylor or Pot Roast after workout today's and giving Loannidis 65% of the snaps against the Ravens. They want to see what they got.

This post is spot on. Some fans think that the money that we would save by dumping KC could be spent on defense. Well here's my question. How's that working for the Giants? How's that working for Jacksonville? How's that working for Miami? For the most part, free agency brings in individuals, it doesn't bring you a team.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This pretty much sums up where I stand on Cousins at this particular point.

How about leadership, intangibles, durability, experience and growth within the offense. Is all that available in the free agent market?? I don't think so.

If Colt was our QB Sunday we don't win that game. He could not have thrown the ball 5 yards past the line in that wind.